Only the Shadow knows....

[O.S.O.K.]

Or Black Shadow....

Well, the local pawn shop had a nice Win M94 Black Shadow chambered in 44 Mag on the rack - $399.

I waited and did the usual detective work and found out that the relatively few of these were made and that they are worth quite a bit more than $400 in VG condition.

So..... I bought it. It was definately in Excellent condition - bore is pristine, no rust no scars, etc. - just a little dirty.

Here it is:



Alls I've done so far is swab the bore and lube it a little. Checked feeding with a dummy round - fine.

Plan on checking the accuracy with some exisitng handloads this weekend.

I like it - it reminds me of the old Model 65, only with a short barrel. And the front swivel is cool too.

[2ndovc]

What a steal!!

I had one of those in .444 Marlin. What a brute, sold it after I found out how much it was worth!

Have fun, betting the .44 Mag is much more pleasant to shoot! Pretty rare too.

jb

[Blaine]

[Pete44ru]

IIRC, Lamar Cranston had one of those.................



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[Mescalero]

Lamar Cranston??????????????

[Stan in SC]

LAMONT Cranston not Lamar.What was his girl friend's name?

Stan in SC

[Mescalero]

I STILL don't know WHAT you guys are talking about!

[Stan in SC]

You might not know but the shadow knows!!!Is that I a good hint?

Stan in SC

[Mescalero]

SO the Shadow's name was Lamont Cranston?

[Grizz]

Or Black Shadow....

Well, the local pawn shop had a nice Win M94 Black Shadow chambered in 44 Mag on the rack - $399.

I waited and did the usual detective work and found out that the relatively few of these were made and that they are worth quite a bit more than $400 in VG condition.

So..... I bought it. It was definately in Excellent condition - bore is pristine, no rust no scars, etc. - just a little dirty.

Alls I've done so far is swab the bore and lube it a little. Checked feeding with a dummy round - fine.

Plan on checking the accuracy with some exisitng handloads this weekend.

I like it - it reminds me of the old Model 65, only with a short barrel. And the front swivel is cool too.

What a good score. I wonder what the twist rate is and wonder if it will feed the 405gr hard cast I shoot in my revolver. I'd be glad to send you one if you'd like to check it out. That would give you trapdoor or better downrange results in a very handy rifle.

Grizz

[O.S.O.K.]

Or Black Shadow....

Well, the local pawn shop had a nice Win M94 Black Shadow chambered in 44 Mag on the rack - $399.

I waited and did the usual detective work and found out that the relatively few of these were made and that they are worth quite a bit more than $400 in VG condition.

So..... I bought it. It was definately in Excellent condition - bore is pristine, no rust no scars, etc. - just a little dirty.

Alls I've done so far is swab the bore and lube it a little. Checked feeding with a dummy round - fine.

Plan on checking the accuracy with some exisitng handloads this weekend.

I like it - it reminds me of the old Model 65, only with a short barrel. And the front swivel is cool too.

What a good score. I wonder what the twist rate is and wonder if it will feed the 405gr hard cast I shoot in my revolver. I'd be glad to send you one if you'd like to check it out. That would give you trapdoor or better downrange results in a very handy rifle.

Grizz

I'll try anything

I'm pretty happy with 300 gr boolits at 1600 fps, but I bet I could push those 405's to at least 1200...

[Panzercat]

I expected a pair of nickle plated .45s with that thread title :p

[O.S.O.K.]

Sorry

[DixieBoy]

Nice find O.S.O.K.

I have a dumb question to ask so all the other folks with dumb questions will have the ice broken for them ...

... is this an Angle Eject rifle ? Just curious. - DixieBoy

[O.S.O.K.]

Yes Sir. It's a 94AE

It's marked "Winchester MODEL 94AE CAL. 44 REM. MAG.

And Grizz - thanks brother! I will be sure and report back on the 405 boolit performance - at least at the range.

I bet one of those tooling along at 1300 fps would be a hammer on anything we have to hunt down here or up in AK.

Oh, and I've got a question, the Win data on the home page ends at 1982... This is probably a 90's production gun - but if anybody can help tell me what year, I'd appreciate it - I'm just curious = serial number is 6351XXX

Thanks!

[Pete44ru]

LAMONT Cranston not Lamar.What was his girl friend's name?

Stan in SC

Sorry 'bout that - my bad........ I wasn't very old (a Looooong time ago), when I used to sneak awake, pasr my bedtime, & listen to that show ( and others like Dragnet & Gunsmoke) on my crystal radio, under the bedcovers (until I got caught, i.e.)


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[O.S.O.K.]

I had a crystal set too

Made it from a kit. I remember being amazed that it worked so well.

But I'm a little too young to have listed to the original radio shows - TV had taken over and I was watchin B&W shows.

[Charles]

"The weed of crime bears bitter fruit. Crime does not pay. The Shadow knows!"

[Griff]

All I know is that factory loads in my '69 mdl 94 carbine in .44Mag kicked MUCH harder than any .30-30 in the same model!

[Grizz]

LAMONT Cranston not Lamar.What was his girl friend's name?

Stan in SC

Sorry 'bout that - my bad........ I wasn't very old (a Looooong time ago), when I used to sneak awake, pasr my bedtime, & listen to that show ( and others like Dragnet & Gunsmoke) on my crystal radio, under the bedcovers (until I got caught, i.e.)


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me too Pete. I had a radio beside my bed and had to be careful under the covers with it. it had TUBES in it and it GLOWED and got HOT. Imagine that. Had to be careful not to set the sheets on fire!! There were NO transisters inside that radio. Listened to great shows that would not embarrass anyone, unless straight upsets them. The good old days.

Old School IS cool !

[new pig hunter]

"Winchester Black Shadow" ...... I'm seeing a Win marketing trend. Last year I picked up a used Black Shadow: .30-06 bolt action Model 70 Black Shadow .....
http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/ ... mid=535021

Cheers,

Carl

[O.S.O.K.]

Ah - thanks for the link. Thought maybe my gun would be listed there - no joy.

I'd like to know for sure what the barrel twist rate is...

[Stan in SC]

Oh,and the Shadow's girl friend was named Margo Lane.

Stan in SC

[new pig hunter]

osok,

page down a ways ...
.44 Mag '94 Black Shadow (pistol grip, 2/3 magazine)= 1-20"
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27381

Cheers,

Carl

[O.S.O.K.]

Thanks - I just tried the old tape on cleaning rod and tight patch method and it looks like mine is 1:38"... The tape went just a bit over 1/2 way around for the length of the barrel - that's if the patch was staying true to the rifling...

[O.S.O.K.]

Range Report:

Fired three, three round salvos at 50 yards. Sat behind my tractor's grater blade and used it as a rest. I was not as rock steady as shooting off of a set of bags from a bench, but it was good enough to give me an idea of sighting and accuracy with the chosen load.

Here's the target:



First three went to the lower left. Adjusted sights up one click and drifted the rear sight to the right - shot the second three which landed too far right but about good for elevation. Then drifted the rear sight back left towards my witness mark and shot the last three which landed spot on - good enough considering the shooter's eyes and rest... The center white circle is 1" in circumfrence BTW.

Here's the load that I was shooting:



That's a 310 grain cast boolit from a Lee mold - gas check. Used Lee Liq Alox lube - wheel weights with a little tin and sized .431".

No leading in the bore at all - looks clean accept for a bit of powder fouling.

I'm pretty happy with this. There's plenty of "up" adjustment left in the rear sight as it's the typical Winchester version with the screw adjustable blade on the click adjustable ramp. In spite of my 51 year old eyes, the sights looked fine. I was thinking of puting a Skinner sight on this one but I'll probably leave it as-is given this experience...

I'll be testing it at 100 and longer ranges with other loads after hunting season. For now, I know it's good to go for most of the hunting on my land if I choose to use it this year