This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
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This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
For about the uhmpteeth time in the last FIVE years I've gotten an intrest in the AR platform AGAIN !
And once again the Stag Model 7 in 6.8 SPC intrests me as well as the Alexander Arms AR-15 in 6.5 Grendel .
And as always the units that intrest me are those I DEEM acceptable for deer hunting !
The Stag Model 7 in 6.8 SPC .
http://www.stagarms.com/product_info.ph ... cts_id=314
The Alexander Arms in 6.5 Grendel .
http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Rifles ... Rifle.html
Now I'll more then likely not get one but who knows !
I'm in the process of liquidating some other firearms in anticipation of a long awaited trip back to the Philippines . So if I get another $1000-1500 more then I need I may just take the jump into the world of EVIL FIREARMS
And once again the Stag Model 7 in 6.8 SPC intrests me as well as the Alexander Arms AR-15 in 6.5 Grendel .
And as always the units that intrest me are those I DEEM acceptable for deer hunting !
The Stag Model 7 in 6.8 SPC .
http://www.stagarms.com/product_info.ph ... cts_id=314
The Alexander Arms in 6.5 Grendel .
http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Rifles ... Rifle.html
Now I'll more then likely not get one but who knows !
I'm in the process of liquidating some other firearms in anticipation of a long awaited trip back to the Philippines . So if I get another $1000-1500 more then I need I may just take the jump into the world of EVIL FIREARMS
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
Incidently I have one semi friend that owns a Stag Model 7 and I've shot it a fair amount . The thing was okay with factory ammo and it seems to me with handloads I could make one shine . Actually I have a semi friend and a friend that have Stag's in 6.8 SPC although the friend has a more tactical version .
Also have a friend that just recently got a nice Alexander Arms rifle in 6.5 Grendel .
Then there's my retired sheriff buddy that had an upper in 6.8 SPC built by a custom builder out in Arizona . And an attorny friend that had an upper in 6.5 Grendel built by the same guy in Arizona . I have seen groups fired with BOTH of the custom built uppers that were .2 MOA or better . Saw the custom 6.8 shot at 350 yards and the 3 shot group measured 1.5"
Also have a friend that just recently got a nice Alexander Arms rifle in 6.5 Grendel .
Then there's my retired sheriff buddy that had an upper in 6.8 SPC built by a custom builder out in Arizona . And an attorny friend that had an upper in 6.5 Grendel built by the same guy in Arizona . I have seen groups fired with BOTH of the custom built uppers that were .2 MOA or better . Saw the custom 6.8 shot at 350 yards and the 3 shot group measured 1.5"
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
Go with the 6.5! It's magic!
Seriously, the SD is better
Seriously, the SD is better
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
O.S.O.K. wrote:Go with the 6.5! It's magic!
Seriously, the SD is better
You don't need to extoll the virtues of the 6.5mm's to me I'm well versed in that
But I've liked the looks of that Stag Model 7 for several years now and the price is also very good compared to the 6.5 Grendel !
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
I guess because I mostly hunt pigs in dense forest where shots are up close and personal the AR platform (Tromix) in 50AE appeals to me.
http://www.tromix.com/Sledg_spec_frame.htm
http://www.tromix.com/Sledg_spec_frame.htm
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
That 6.5 Grendel (or .264 Les Baer - take your pick) is a FINE round and I love the way it shoots. Nothing wrong with the 6.8, but the Grendel (or Baer) has more powder capacity and just outdoes it in my view. Alexander Arms really does seem to make a fine rifle (an Army buddy has one and it's pretty daggum sweet), but there are other folks who can build you a 6.5 or .264.
http://www.lesbaer.com/264LBCAR.html
Or for something different, how about an AR-15 in .24 WSSM?
http://www.accurate-ar15.com/
Some pretty good ballistics!
Oly
http://www.lesbaer.com/264LBCAR.html
Or for something different, how about an AR-15 in .24 WSSM?
http://www.accurate-ar15.com/
Some pretty good ballistics!
Oly
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Oly
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
Had a friend that had a custom built AR upper for the 243 WSSM and it shot very nicely . He also killed a pickup truck load of deer with the thing before he decided to sell it !olyinaz wrote: Or for something different, how about an AR-15 in .24 WSSM?
http://www.accurate-ar15.com/
Some pretty good ballistics!
Oly
He had me considering getting one in a 25 WSSM at the time !
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
.300 blackout!! .300! Blackout!
Uses the same mags and lower receiver as the 5.56.
Start with the .300 upper, swap barrels back down to 5.56 and you're good to go!
Uses the same mags and lower receiver as the 5.56.
Start with the .300 upper, swap barrels back down to 5.56 and you're good to go!
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again !
I see no future what so ever in me getting a 300 Blackout or a 223 .Panzercat wrote:.300 blackout!! .300! Blackout!
Uses the same mags and lower receiver as the 5.56.
Start with the .300 upper, swap barrels back down to 5.56 and you're good to go!
Nothing against them , just not my cup of tea .
To me the 300 Blackout is only usefull if I do the subsonic thing and I ain't worried about that anylonger .
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
Well I'm over the AR thing again and it only took 72 hours this time !
I got a Ranch Dog 411-255GC mold today and it's got my intrest up again for a 411-444 Marlin .
So the score is something like ,
Me - 7
AR's - 0
I got a Ranch Dog 411-255GC mold today and it's got my intrest up again for a 411-444 Marlin .
So the score is something like ,
Me - 7
AR's - 0
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
I only ever had the "AR Bug" once... and that was because a guy I knew had an M4gery that he needed to sell for quick cash.
I had that rifle for about 18 months.
Nice rifle, typically accurate, utterly boring.
Of course, that was before Pistons & fun uppers, but still... it's not hard for me to bypass them.
I had that rifle for about 18 months.
Nice rifle, typically accurate, utterly boring.
Of course, that was before Pistons & fun uppers, but still... it's not hard for me to bypass them.
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
Shoot a DAEWOO.
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
The only semi auto I currently own is my Ruger 10/22. As much as I love my Garand design firearms being a handloader made it difficult to concentrate shooting my Mini-14 while trying to mark the places where the brass was landing in the grass.
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
COSteve,
Without a doubt, yours is the best looking EBR I have ever seen. I would probably have one of my own if they all came like that. But then again, there is that find-the-brass game after shooting which would really bother me.
Without a doubt, yours is the best looking EBR I have ever seen. I would probably have one of my own if they all came like that. But then again, there is that find-the-brass game after shooting which would really bother me.
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
-6pt-sika I was toying with a AR purchase also and it was briefly. As far as a bad times/combat gun I figured why buy an other gun my Model 94 Winchester 30/30 rigged with scout set up and a red dot sight will do nicely and won't cost me much to do that I already have two dot sights laying around doing nothing and seeing the Lyman front scope set up gave me ideas how to do it reasonably. It will also make my 94 just a bit handier and I do have a peep sight and a fiber optic front sight on it already. WI does not have the varmint hunting opportunities that other states do we cannot even shoot ground hogs unless they are on your own property. For any varmint chores I have a Henry 22 Mag. That will suffice for 22 cal purposes. If I bought one it really would not fill a niche. As far as the 30/30 goes used brass is cheap and plentiful and I cast my own so I can load a lot for pennies and I already have the gear. If I had an AR in 223 I probably would not load for it which would just be an other added expense. Not knocking the round I have had it in a handi rifle and a Encore platform but like I said WI is not very opportunistic for varmint hunting. If I ever won one I would not turn one down and I had thought about building a lower and then buying upper parts as I could afford them but that really would depend on the election. I think if zero wins AR parts and guns will be very hard to find just if nothing else the threat of a ban.
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
COSteve wrote:Evil! Does this AR look evil?
Sure it's evil
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
jh45gun wrote:-6pt-sika I was toying with a AR purchase also and it was briefly. As far as a bad times/combat gun I figured why buy an other gun my Model 94 Winchester 30/30 rigged with scout set up and a red dot sight will do nicely and won't cost me much to do that I already have two dot sights laying around doing nothing and seeing the Lyman front scope set up gave me ideas how to do it reasonably. It will also make my 94 just a bit handier and I do have a peep sight and a fiber optic front sight on it already. WI does not have the varmint hunting opportunities that other states do we cannot even shoot ground hogs unless they are on your own property. For any varmint chores I have a Henry 22 Mag. That will suffice for 22 cal purposes. If I bought one it really would not fill a niche. As far as the 30/30 goes used brass is cheap and plentiful and I cast my own so I can load a lot for pennies and I already have the gear. If I had an AR in 223 I probably would not load for it which would just be an other added expense. Not knocking the round I have had it in a handi rifle and a Encore platform but like I said WI is not very opportunistic for varmint hunting. If I ever won one I would not turn one down and I had thought about building a lower and then buying upper parts as I could afford them but that really would depend on the election. I think if zero wins AR parts and guns will be very hard to find just if nothing else the threat of a ban.
Look I don't buy stuff for the same typical reasons that most folks would .
When I say I want one of these things it's purely to just play with it awhile and possibly kill a deer or two .
As to doomsday and all that stuff it doesn't have anything to do with what I want to play with . I understand you using a practical attitude toward the whole thing and thats certainly and acceptable way to do it . I on the other hand don't typically take that approach .
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
I got that one figured out already !Steelbanger wrote: But there is that find-the-brass game after shooting which would really bother me.
They make these cute little catcher bags that hook on the side of the EVIL RIFLES . And at the range in the past with other peoples AR's when I sighted them in , I would use a cardboard box kinda leaning against the ejection port side to kinda contain the flying brass .
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
Oh Oh - I'm getting visions of Red Green with a roll or two of duct tape and a huge box. Now that would spoil the look of even the prettiest AR.6pt-sika wrote:[I would use a cardboard box kinda leaning against the ejection port side to kinda contain the flying brass .
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
Steelbanger wrote:Oh Oh - I'm getting visions of Red Green with a roll or two of duct tape and a huge box. Now that would spoil the look of even the prettiest AR.6pt-sika wrote:[I would use a cardboard box kinda leaning against the ejection port side to kinda contain the flying brass .
Who cares at the range
Now the nice little camo net bag would be more better if I'm sitting high up in a tree in the woods waiting for the poor unsuspecting deer to walk by
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
Money is the major issue on most of my thinking or purchases .For the record I had at one time a SKS and an Egyptian Maddi AK I traded the SKS in on the AK big mistake the SKS in my opinion was better. I think the AR is a lot better platform then those two but I sold the AK and the next purchase was the 94.6pt-sika wrote:jh45gun wrote:-6pt-sika I was toying with a AR purchase also and it was briefly. As far as a bad times/combat gun I figured why buy an other gun my Model 94 Winchester 30/30 rigged with scout set up and a red dot sight will do nicely and won't cost me much to do that I already have two dot sights laying around doing nothing and seeing the Lyman front scope set up gave me ideas how to do it reasonably. It will also make my 94 just a bit handier and I do have a peep sight and a fiber optic front sight on it already. WI does not have the varmint hunting opportunities that other states do we cannot even shoot ground hogs unless they are on your own property. For any varmint chores I have a Henry 22 Mag. That will suffice for 22 cal purposes. If I bought one it really would not fill a niche. As far as the 30/30 goes used brass is cheap and plentiful and I cast my own so I can load a lot for pennies and I already have the gear. If I had an AR in 223 I probably would not load for it which would just be an other added expense. Not knocking the round I have had it in a handi rifle and a Encore platform but like I said WI is not very opportunistic for varmint hunting. If I ever won one I would not turn one down and I had thought about building a lower and then buying upper parts as I could afford them but that really would depend on the election. I think if zero wins AR parts and guns will be very hard to find just if nothing else the threat of a ban.
Look I don't buy stuff for the same typical reasons that most folks would .
When I say I want one of these things it's purely to just play with it awhile and possibly kill a deer or two .
As to doomsday and all that stuff it doesn't have anything to do with what I want to play with . I understand you using a practical attitude toward the whole thing and thats certainly and acceptable way to do it . I on the other hand don't typically take that approach .
A gun is like a parachute: If you need one and don't have one, you won't be needing one again.
Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
I've had the 300 Whisper in a bunch of single shots, as well as AR uppers, and while I love the round, it bored me right away in the AR. I think I shot it twice before I sold it.
I have a 6.5 G for hunting which I will finally take in the woods this winter. Some people talk magazine capacity with the 300 vs 6.8 vs 6.5, but hunting I'm only allowed 5 rounds in the gun anyway, so it doesn't factor in.
My 50 Beowulf was by far the most fun AR I've ever owned/shot, but it was a tad spendy to feed.
DAWOO's are cool… almost bought one this spring. But BREAK a DAEWOO and learn what searching for parts is all about.
I have a 6.5 G for hunting which I will finally take in the woods this winter. Some people talk magazine capacity with the 300 vs 6.8 vs 6.5, but hunting I'm only allowed 5 rounds in the gun anyway, so it doesn't factor in.
My 50 Beowulf was by far the most fun AR I've ever owned/shot, but it was a tad spendy to feed.
Mescalero wrote:Shoot a DAEWOO.
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DAWOO's are cool… almost bought one this spring. But BREAK a DAEWOO and learn what searching for parts is all about.
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
A few times I think I need an AR. But, I always know I want a Sharps fitted with a .444 barrel.
Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
I use them at the range all the time.6pt-sika wrote:I got that one figured out already !Steelbanger wrote: But there is that find-the-brass game after shooting which would really bother me.
They make these cute little catcher bags that hook on the side of the EVIL RIFLES . And at the range in the past with other peoples AR's when I sighted them in , I would use a cardboard box kinda leaning against the ejection port side to kinda contain the flying brass .
Old picture of my RRA Middy before I lightened it up showing the bag. Works well.
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Re: This EVIL THING reared it's head again and NOW I'm over it !
That's the thing I saw and thought would work great !COSteve wrote:I use them at the range all the time.6pt-sika wrote:I got that one figured out already !Steelbanger wrote: But there is that find-the-brass game after shooting which would really bother me.
They make these cute little catcher bags that hook on the side of the EVIL RIFLES . And at the range in the past with other peoples AR's when I sighted them in , I would use a cardboard box kinda leaning against the ejection port side to kinda contain the flying brass .
Old picture of my RRA Middy before I lightened it up showing the bag. Works well.
I "think" I saw them somewhere in green or brown or camo and thought that might be a touch better to use when up in a treestand . But worse come to worse I could get two of the black ones and cut one a little short in the bag part as it would only need to catch 5 cases tops .
I may one day get a 6.5 Grendel or a 6.8 SPC or possibly a 243/25 WSSM . But it'll be entirely for the fun of working up a load or two and then wacking some poor unsuspecting deer . And typically after I kill a few with said rifle I kinda loose intrest and wanna try somthin else
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