Winchester 1892 .44-40 question please

[paulsnapp]

I am considering buying a Winchester 1892 .44-40 SRC replica that is finished is blue/case hardened. I want to replace the lever with a big loop lever like the one used in the TV show "The Rifleman". I was wondering where I could purchase just this big loop lever in a case hardened finish and will it fit interchangeably with a Rossi 92 carbine? Thanks for your help!

[olyinaz]

I can't help but you've come to the right place. Welcome aboard.

[Pete44ru]

I am considering buying a Winchester 1892 .44-40 SRC replica that is finished is blue/case hardened. I want to replace the lever with a big loop lever like the one used in the TV show "The Rifleman". I was wondering where I could purchase just this big loop lever in a case hardened finish and will it fit interchangeably with a Rossi 92 carbine? Thanks for your help!

Welcome to our little corner of the www, Paul !

While I'm clueless as to which Model 92 clones have CCH levers, I do know that Rossi has "BigLoop" carbines, for which it's easy to buy a Big Loop lever from the Rossi (Taurus) parts dept & drop into your whatever .44-40 Model 92.

That issue Big Loop lever could be CCH'd, or you might google your way through (South American) Rossi & (Italian) Chiappa/Puma Model 92 oferings, looking for another Big Loop model of whatever chambering, with a factory CCH lever that you could order/buy.

FWIW, a few years ago I actually swapped the Big Loop lever from my .357/.38 Rossi M92 with another levergunner for his standard lever - after I found out the big loop's don't work as good as they look, and the other levergunner wanted one. (Thanks, Hagler ! )




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[pwl44m]

Welcome Paul, caint tell Ya nuthin about a 92 Clone but a 92 Win in 44wcf is sorta on My bucket list.
Perry

[Terry Murbach]

I am considering buying a Winchester 1892 .44-40 SRC replica that is finished is blue/case hardened. I want to replace the lever with a big loop lever like the one used in the TV show "The Rifleman". I was wondering where I could purchase just this big loop lever in a case hardened finish and will it fit interchangeably with a Rossi 92 carbine? Thanks for your help!

Welcome to our little corner of the www, Paul !

While I'm clueless as to which Model 92 clones have CCH levers, I do know that Rossi has "BigLoop" carbines, for which it's easy to buy a Big Loop lever from the Rossi (Taurus) parts dept & drop into your whatever .44-40 Model 92.

That issue Big Loop lever could be CCH'd, or you might google your way through (South American) Rossi & (Italian) Chiappa/Puma Model 92 oferings, looking for another Big Loop model of whatever chambering, with a factory CCH lever that you could order/buy.

FWIW, a few years ago I actually swapped the Big Loop lever from my .357/.38 Rossi M92 with another levergunner for his standard lever - after I found out the big loop's don't work as good as they look, and the other levergunner wanted one. (Thanks, Hagler ! ) [ QUOTE]

LISTEN TO WHAT PETE HAS TO SAY ABOVE THIS . THE LARGE LEVERS FOR '92's ETC ARE A P-I-T-A AND ONLY LOOK GOOD OR WORK GOOD ON TV OR IN THE MOVIES. GO BACK AND READ WHY IT WAS INVENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR JOHN WAYNE IN "STAGECOACH."
AS A MATTER OF FACT THE ONE I HAD WAS SUCH no good FEATURE ON AN OTHERWISE FINE LEVERGUN I GAVE THE DANG THING AWAY !! I'D BE DANGED IF I'D CHARGE SOMEONE FOR A TURD LIKE THAT.
[ ...ON THE OTHER HAND THE NEWLY RE-STYLED LARGER LEVER ON SOME MARLIN HUNTING GUNS HANDLES AND FEELS FINE FOR GLOVED USAGE...]
I JUST FINISHED LOADING 1000 ROUNDS OF 44-40 AMMUNITION FOR USE IN MY '73 CARBINE, 2 COLT SAA's, A S&W M24, A CIMARRON 44-40, AND A S&W M544. IT'LL ALL BE GONE IN NO TIME FOLKS BUT THERE ARE 2000 MORE CASES ALL READY TO LOAD SO I WILL NOT BE RUNNING OUT ANYTIME SOON.
YOU KNOW THE FUNNY THING ABOUT 44-40 FIREARMS? I'VE NEVER YET SEEN ONE THAT DIDN'T SHOOT TO BEAT THE BAND WITH DANG NEAR ANY LOAD YOU CAN TOSS TOGETHER FORM MILD TO WILD. AN AMAZING LITTLE CARTRIDGE !!

[Hagler]

paulsnapp,

You have a few things to think about. I believe that the lever for any Model 92 will fit any other Model 92. A few companies have manufactured large loop levers, for their version of the 92:

[*]Rossi[*]
[*]Chiappa[*]
[*]Winchester (Miroku-produced, in Japan)[*]

Lucas McCain had two differently-shaped levers, during the course of the TV series. Here is a screenshot from "The Sharpshooter", the first episode of "The Rifleman", showing a slightly smaller round loop:



Here is a photograph of Lucas' lever, aparently a publicity shot, showing the larger loop:



Chuck Connors gave away some of McCain's rifles. One of them went to Arnold Palmer. Here is a photograph of the "flattened" loop, taken at the Arnold Palmer display, in the Golf Museum:



If you want a ready-made large loop lever, then you have a few choices:

[*]Older, Rossi "John Wayne"-style lever[*]
[*]Rossi large loop lever[*]
[*]Rossi "3/4" loop lever[*]
[*]Chiappa/ Legacy Sports- Puma/ Taylor's "John Wayne"-style lever[*]
[*]Chiappa/ Legacy Sports-Puma Chuck Connors Tribute lever (very close to Lucas' large, round lever)[*]
[*]Newer, Winchster/ Miroku "John Wayne"-style lever[*]

Here is my Miroku-produced, Browning B92, with a Rossi large loop lever:



Here is my Rossi 92, with their 3/4 loop lever (it's the rifle with the striped wood), next to the B92:



Frome our own Steve Young (Nate Kiowa Jones) is this photograph that compares the Rossi large loop levers (fullsize large loop, top; "John Wayne"-style, middle; three-quarter loop, bottom):



Here is the Chiappa/ Legacy Sports International-Puma (Also Sold as a Charles Daly-braned rifle), with the John Wayne lever:



I do not have pictures of the other levers, but I believe that you can see that you have some options. However, I do not know of any large loop lever that is color case hardened.

Another route would be to have someone fabricate the lever for you. "WOODCHUCK45" sells on Gun Broker, and he modifies rifle levers. He has something for sale (Model 94), right now. You can ask him a question, to see if he will modify your lever:

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?In ... ers=933080

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =354871503



Our own Steve Young ("Nate Kiowa Jones"), The Rossi '92 Specialist, owner of Steve's Guns, may be able to help you, too:

http://www.stevesgunz.com/

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=49510







Shawn

[Hagler]

...here's a list of places that may sell you a large loop lever:

http://legacysports.com/

http://www.emf-company.com/

http://chiappafirearms.com/

http://www.mkschiappa.com/

...and here is a list of links of where you might have one made:

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?In ... ers=933080

http://www.stevesgunz.com/

http://www.eaglesquadronproductions.com/bounty.htm

...and:

http://www.bountyhunterspecial.com/

Shawn

[1894c]

you guys are the best...we get a new guy, his first post, asks a great question and the info just comes...even I learned something new...thanks... :)

[Hagler]

***BUMP***

[AJMD429]

The really big-loop leverguns I've handled seemed like they'd be darn hard to shoot and operate quickly or smoothly, to be honest.

The recent 'GBL' Marlin loops are just a bit bigger than ordinary, and wouldn't fit on a Rossi or Winchester 92, but might be a more practical size for large or gloved hands. They would NOT look like Chuck Connor's gun, though.


http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/ ... 895GBL.asp

WELCOME to the forum, by the way...!

[Hagler]

Here is the "Chuck Connors Limited Edition" Puma, from Legeacy Sports International, manufactured by Chiappa, introduced around 2009 (picture from www.gunblast.com):

DSC04553.jpg

Manufacturer: Puma CCLE4440
Item: 56035
UPC: 682146710007

I do not know if this lever is available by itself. Note that the trigger-trip screw is non-functional.

Shawn

[twobit]

AJMD429 wrote:

The really big-loop leverguns I've handled seemed like they'd be darn hard to shoot and operate quickly or smoothly, to be honest.

I collect and research Winchester 1892's and have over 30 of them. I absolutely agree with your comment. The large loop looks goofy and is of no
advantage when cycling the rifle for a new round. Unless you live WAY up north and are wearing mittens.

Michael

[DPris]

The Mare's Leg on a bucket in the image above is mine, I asked Steve to do a chop job on the Rossi version to more closely match the original TV version. That included re-shaping the lever loop.

Otherwise, I have the ringlever on a Winchester Model 94 .30-30 Trapper. It's a 1994 rebounding- hammer side-eject, and with the rebounding parts it takes more effort to work the lever than my smooth '51 Model 94.
I've tried the little Trapper with a standard lever & the ringlever, and I find the ringlever gives it more leverage to result in less force being needed to cycle the action.

In my case, on that gun, the ringlever provides a definite benefit, and I've adapted my "technique" to be as fast as I need to be with the gun.

Also have a 16-inch Rossi '92 Steve's worked over, in .45 Colt.
Frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a flying phooey whether the ringlever's efficient on that gun or not, it's cool & it stays.

Sometimes, cool's enough.
Denis

[steve817]

http://www.riflemansrifle.com/own_riflemans_rifle.htm

This guy will have you ready to go out of the box.

[Hagler]

...I just relocated this ad:

Chuck Connors Puma.jpg

Shawn

[Sixgun]

What's green and carries a rifle?






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