A knife for Sara:Part 1Annealing and design (pics)

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A knife for Sara:Part 1Annealing and design (pics)

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Brought the files through the annealing process. I heard or read about a ½ dozen different way to go about it, but the one I opted for was the slowest,but seemed to be the best.
Basically build a nice fire out back, we used pine to get it going and then oak for some retained heat. Once that gets down to a bed a coals dig down in and flatten out a area large enough for your file, this will prevent any from bending under the pressure and heat from the fire your going to build on top of it. It was also suggested, which I did that if possible to use several files in this process it shares the heat with the other files instead of localizing it all to one file.

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We covered the files in ash and then built another one on-top of it and left it for over night.
As a side note I could not stand to let all of that heat to go to waste so I butchered a few young rabbits rubbed in salt and fresh pepper and then wrapped then bacon and roasted them over the pit. Added some corn bread in a cast iron dish, with some Corona and just sat back and enjoyed the breeze.
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The next morning I went out a dug up the files and laid them out on the welding bench. Picked up one and locked it down in the vise and ran a harden file over it and it cut into like butter. Mission accomplished. Going with the plan of letting them slowly cool overnight, so they did not develop any brittle spots seemed to do the trick.
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Next was to scribe out designs onto the files and then for dad to start working on his with only simple hand tools. Grandpa and my daughter will be using some more “modern” methods to shape their”s.

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8) Keep us posted as your projects progress. I might have to try that myself.
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Great start to a fun project. :D
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I like the roast rabbit and beer part 8)
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BlaineG wrote:I like the roast rabbit and beer part 8)
Yeah, that part has a certain "panache'".
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This is getting very interesting - pretty fancy grill. :)
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I am really enjoying your post about making knives from files. Please keep posting as you go.

I was thinking about your design, maybe you can use the tang and save some of the file for a second knife? Some of the Finnish Pukkos use a tang similar to the files for the grip.

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Griff wrote:
BlaineG wrote:I like the roast rabbit and beer part 8)
Yeah, that part has a certain "panache'".
That did not go over too well when the family came home and found dad next to a pile of rabbit bones, a few empty bottles of Corona, a hint of the smell of bacon and a content grin on his face.
So today we will grill again although with chicken breast. :mrgreen:
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SteveR wrote:I am really enjoying your post about making knives from files. Please keep posting as you go.

I was thinking about your design, maybe you can use the tang and save some of the file for a second knife? Some of the Finnish Pukkos use a tang similar to the files for the grip.

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re: file tangs...

I have read, but do not Know, that the steel in the tangs may break when included in the knife....

this may have to do with modern air-hardened steel that files are currently made from...

I might build a hot fire myself and throw one into it
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Grizz wrote:re: file tangs...

I have read, but do not Know, that the steel in the tangs may break when included in the knife....

this may have to do with modern air-hardened steel that files are currently made from...

I might build a hot fire myself and throw one into it
I get a warm fuzzy feeling when the entire blade is sammiched between the panels....
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BlaineG wrote:
Grizz wrote:re: file tangs...

I have read, but do not Know, that the steel in the tangs may break when included in the knife....

this may have to do with modern air-hardened steel that files are currently made from...

I might build a hot fire myself and throw one into it
I get a warm fuzzy feeling when the entire blade is sammiched between the panels....
I hope there's no double entendre involved ..... kwim?
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Grizz wrote:
BlaineG wrote:
Grizz wrote:re: file tangs...

I have read, but do not Know, that the steel in the tangs may break when included in the knife....

this may have to do with modern air-hardened steel that files are currently made from...

I might build a hot fire myself and throw one into it
I get a warm fuzzy feeling when the entire blade is sammiched between the panels....
I hope there's no double entendre involved ..... kwim?
None whatsoever....That statement was totally "GreenProof" :lol:
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TedH wrote:8) Keep us posted as your projects progress. I might have to try that myself.
+1 on both counts!
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