WW II jacket emblems, help with ID
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WW II jacket emblems, help with ID
These came from my dad, he was not a pilot but did serve 4 years in the India during WW II (where the China Burma conflict was going on I think)....he brought these two leather emblems home and they have been in storage ever since.
What are they, how were they used and do the have any collectable value. They are in excellent shape.
Thanks
What are they, how were they used and do the have any collectable value. They are in excellent shape.
Thanks
Re: WW II jacket emblems, help with ID
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This is a Early AVG (American Volunteer Group) Flying Tigers Leather Blood Chit from the WWII US China Theater - worth $250-$300 for a gennie with provenance, like yours. (copies are $30)
Blood chits are usually associated with the AVG Flying Tigers, 14th Air Force Flying Tiger squadrons, and other units operating in the CBI (China/Burma/India) Theater.
They were sewn on the backs (both inside and outside) of the Army Air Force or US Navy/Marine Corps flight jacket or flying suit.
They were intended to keep a downed pilot from being killed or otherwise harmed by the local population, many of whom had never seen a Caucasian before.
The flag or flags of the government(s) of the area(s) being flown over were shown, as well as a message written in the local language(s).
Paraphrased the message is; "I am a downed American Airman. I have come to help rid your country of our common enemy, the Japanese. If you keep me safe, provide me with food, water, shelter, and medical help, you will be rewarded by my government when I am returned safely to my countrymen" (The US Allied Forces).
This is a WWII US CBI Flying Tigers AVG Group ( 1st American Volunteer Group) regimental flag for the China/Burma/India Theater - IDK a value.
Prior to US involvement in WWII against the Japanese (pre-Pearl Harbor,7 Dec 1941), US military pilots (and their support groups), anxious to fight enemies of the US, volunteered to fly/fight for the Chinese gov't at that time, to fight the Japanese - who were already aggressively active in Asian combat.
The volunteers were temporarily released from their US service obligation, so that the pols could say that the US Gov't wasn't involved in China, then (the survivors) re-patrioted into the US military after Pearl Harbor.
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This is a Early AVG (American Volunteer Group) Flying Tigers Leather Blood Chit from the WWII US China Theater - worth $250-$300 for a gennie with provenance, like yours. (copies are $30)
Blood chits are usually associated with the AVG Flying Tigers, 14th Air Force Flying Tiger squadrons, and other units operating in the CBI (China/Burma/India) Theater.
They were sewn on the backs (both inside and outside) of the Army Air Force or US Navy/Marine Corps flight jacket or flying suit.
They were intended to keep a downed pilot from being killed or otherwise harmed by the local population, many of whom had never seen a Caucasian before.
The flag or flags of the government(s) of the area(s) being flown over were shown, as well as a message written in the local language(s).
Paraphrased the message is; "I am a downed American Airman. I have come to help rid your country of our common enemy, the Japanese. If you keep me safe, provide me with food, water, shelter, and medical help, you will be rewarded by my government when I am returned safely to my countrymen" (The US Allied Forces).
This is a WWII US CBI Flying Tigers AVG Group ( 1st American Volunteer Group) regimental flag for the China/Burma/India Theater - IDK a value.
Prior to US involvement in WWII against the Japanese (pre-Pearl Harbor,7 Dec 1941), US military pilots (and their support groups), anxious to fight enemies of the US, volunteered to fly/fight for the Chinese gov't at that time, to fight the Japanese - who were already aggressively active in Asian combat.
The volunteers were temporarily released from their US service obligation, so that the pols could say that the US Gov't wasn't involved in China, then (the survivors) re-patrioted into the US military after Pearl Harbor.
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Re: WW II jacket emblems, help with ID
Death defying, and Glorious times. Superior, and patriotic men....Sort of like the Eagle Squadron; American pilots that went to fight Germans in the Battle of Britain before we jumped into the war. More reasons this was the Greatest Generation.
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Biting my tongue... With numerous exceptions.BlaineG wrote:...More reasons this was the Greatest Generation.
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For a start: Roosevelt, Chamberlin, etc.....Griff wrote:Biting my tongue... With numerous exceptions.BlaineG wrote:...More reasons this was the Greatest Generation.
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Re: WW II jacket emblems, help with ID
Pete,
Thank you so much for the info, wonderful history.
Thank you so much for the info, wonderful history.
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Re: WW II jacket emblems, help with ID
Gregory Pappy Bowington was in such a group of airmen in Burma
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God bless them, but they were mercenaries, paid 5-times a prewar Army Air Corps salary, plus serious cash for each kill.BlaineG wrote:Death defying, and Glorious times. Superior, and patriotic men.....
Simply, they weren't fighting for flag and country.
Who knows what we'd say about Hessians if we were still British.
Brave men with a skill that was needed and worth the price.
Thanks for showing your keepsakes - they are true treasures.
Nothing down on the brave men who fought these battles before the war. They are true heroes.
Also, honor and thanks to your dad for his service.
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"they weren't fighting for flag and country"
Yes they were, as much as the Americans who joined Canadian or British forces before 1942 because they couldn't wait to get into the fight.
My understanding is that most of the AVG transferred in place to US forces when the AVG disbanded.
Yes they were, as much as the Americans who joined Canadian or British forces before 1942 because they couldn't wait to get into the fight.
My understanding is that most of the AVG transferred in place to US forces when the AVG disbanded.
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absolutely and they took an 80% pay cut
didn't once say they weren't heroes, but our flag and our country wasn't at war, and our air corps servicemen were granted leave of absence.
didn't once say they weren't heroes, but our flag and our country wasn't at war, and our air corps servicemen were granted leave of absence.