For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
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For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
Its spreading. danny
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Braaaiinnnsss.....
All the more reason to kill Zombie Cervids...
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Re: For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
Question: If your out in the boonies hunting is there a way to tell an animal has or has not got the CWD other than abnormal behavior?
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Nope, no way to tell. Most states with it have programs where you send in a sample after the kill and it is tested before consumption. Still no evidence that people can be affected but it does bring back memories of the problems in the UK with mad cow disease.
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Sure there is. They are the ones that allow the PETAoids to spray them with orange paint...
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Re: For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
Joe in the later stages the animal stands around with its back arched and is not as alert as other animals, when I break down a deer or elk I check the liver first thing milky colored or white spots on liver its in poor health could be one of a half dozen diseases. CWD started on game farms and the animals either escaped or contaminated local wild animals. The cause is well known feeding animal protein processed feeds such as chicken feed and hog feed, they are omnivores, and molasses/mineral licks with animal fats to ungulates. danny
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Danny,
Thanks. Seems like us humans are causing ourselves way too many problems.
Joe
Thanks. Seems like us humans are causing ourselves way too many problems.
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Re: For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
Danny,
Do you know of CWD being confirmed from wild populations in MT?? It's probably only a matter of time if we don't already have it.
Thanks!
Gary
Do you know of CWD being confirmed from wild populations in MT?? It's probably only a matter of time if we don't already have it.
Thanks!
Gary
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BigSky56 wrote:CWD started on game farms and the animals either escaped or contaminated local wild animals.
Then there's Indiana - last time I asked (last year at a checking station) there was NO 'checking for CWD', yet we're now starting to increase the number of 'game farms'...Leverluver wrote:Most states with it have programs where you send in a sample after the kill and it is tested before consumption.
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I didn't mean that it was mandatory or that it happened at check stations only. In WY, if you want to know, you voluntarily send in the sample they require and they will test and let you know, one way or another. If you really are concerned and want to be totally safe, you have to wait for the test reports. I do believe that the test itself is still free so all you are out is some time. I do not know what the alternative is if it tests positive as I haven't hunted here for several years.
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Gary, not that I know of but its in So Idaho from game farms I expect it to show up in SW MT & SE MT soon. danny
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Yo Danny.........good to hear from you. Here in the East, I only hear occasional reports. But dang, we sure do have a lot of two legged creatures with diseases worse than that.-----6
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8 out of the last 10 deer I had checked here was positive!!!
they do charge for the test unless you hit a game check or know some one (25.00?)
they also send you a permit to take it to the land fill if its positive & that's where it goes for me!
the cwd has stopped me from elk hunting & made me a horn hunter on deer, if I want
a few steaks & jerky I go antelope hunting, in all as I age I don't feel much like killing animals
any more, steel or a distant hill side works for me now
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they do charge for the test unless you hit a game check or know some one (25.00?)
they also send you a permit to take it to the land fill if its positive & that's where it goes for me!
the cwd has stopped me from elk hunting & made me a horn hunter on deer, if I want
a few steaks & jerky I go antelope hunting, in all as I age I don't feel much like killing animals
any more, steel or a distant hill side works for me now
ollogger
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You only live once and altzheimers at 80 vs altzheimers at 90 doesn't seem like that much of a risk..
Honestly, if you stay away from Brain/spine/organ meat, a CWD Zombie is no worse for you than a Hormone-pumped feedlot cow.
I did my bit with target shooting. At this stage in my life, targets are for verification and rifles are for bringing home meat or overturning politics...
Honestly, if you stay away from Brain/spine/organ meat, a CWD Zombie is no worse for you than a Hormone-pumped feedlot cow.
I did my bit with target shooting. At this stage in my life, targets are for verification and rifles are for bringing home meat or overturning politics...
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Re: For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
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Thanks for the explaination. Been a long time since I hunted. Like you, I get more fun out of making big rocks into little rocks than anything else. I was wondering what happened if the test came back positive. Now I know..thanks.
Thanks for the explaination. Been a long time since I hunted. Like you, I get more fun out of making big rocks into little rocks than anything else. I was wondering what happened if the test came back positive. Now I know..thanks.
Re: For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
They have been dealing with CWD in Wisconsin for over 10 years now. It effects the whole state. But yet I have never witnessed a sick or strange behavior from a deer. Either on the farm or different places where I hunt. I believe that infected deer don't live long enough too die from CWD. The only bad organs I seen from gutting a deer , was from one that was hit by a car and had a broken leg sometime before I had shot it. We have been eating the venison all along through this CWD concern. Even though a person doesn't like seeing it spread and I would prefer not having CWD, it is not as scary as they make it sound. The deer are not tipping over left and right from CWD.
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Don't think its not in the wild deer, moose and elk in Montana, every state and province that surrounds MT has it and it's in captive game animals in Montana already.
http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.map
"In November and December 1999, all 83 elk at the Philipsburg facility in Montana (the source of the CWD captive positive in Oklahoma) were destroyed." (Unknown how long the soil stays contaminated)
"The Colorado Division of Wildlife attempted to eliminate CWD from the Fort Collins Foothills Wildlife Research Facility by treating the soil with chlorine, removing the treated soil, and applying an additional chlorine treatment before letting the facility remain vacant for more than a year. The effort was unsuccessful."
http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.map
"In November and December 1999, all 83 elk at the Philipsburg facility in Montana (the source of the CWD captive positive in Oklahoma) were destroyed." (Unknown how long the soil stays contaminated)
"The Colorado Division of Wildlife attempted to eliminate CWD from the Fort Collins Foothills Wildlife Research Facility by treating the soil with chlorine, removing the treated soil, and applying an additional chlorine treatment before letting the facility remain vacant for more than a year. The effort was unsuccessful."
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Re: For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
Thanks for the update Danny.
While I'm not the hung-ho hunter I was once, I still do enjoy the "fruits" of a successful hunt. I just had finished eating some nice backstrap steaks from a white-tail doe I shot last fall. A deer or two is much appreciated in our household; both my wife and I prefer it to most cuts of store-bought meat. Probably has as much to do with saving some bucks (money) as anything. We're kinda frugal.
While I'm not the hung-ho hunter I was once, I still do enjoy the "fruits" of a successful hunt. I just had finished eating some nice backstrap steaks from a white-tail doe I shot last fall. A deer or two is much appreciated in our household; both my wife and I prefer it to most cuts of store-bought meat. Probably has as much to do with saving some bucks (money) as anything. We're kinda frugal.
Re: For those that hunt Wyo, CWD update
Harry, I wouldnt be surprised if its here and the game farm that had 80+ elk the prions that the elk shed are probably still in the soil, the scientists say you cant get CJD (Creutzfeld-Jakob Disease) from a CWD animal but at the same time say it would take 40 years to develop in a human course it didnt take that long for 10 people in UK that got CJD from BSE cattle (mad cow) the new term that the scientists use is TSE (Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies). Valery Geist a professor of animal science in Calgary AB 1998 says he wouldnt eat TSE tainted animals . There have been a handful of people in the USA that have come down CJD I cant recall if the source was ID one was a hunter and ate game. danny
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it may already be affecting humans in the district of Columbia......affecting elected and appointed officials.....CWDCO [ Certifiable Washington DC Officials ]
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