Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45s
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Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45s
I found this to be interesting, especially since the USMC just bought a bunch of new Colt 1911's -- I have my Gen4 Glock 19...I'm good to go...uurrraahhhhhhh....see link below... :)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/19/ma ... arsoc-45s/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/19/ma ... arsoc-45s/
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Re: Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45
AAAAAHHHH!!!
(here we go again...)
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(here we go again...)
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Funny thing you should mention that....my best friend, "The Gunny" has two sons in MARSOC......and the one boy says "there ain't nothing like a 1911 .45".
I'm not sure about such things as I'm a nobody in the military world......but......I have "heard" those guys use whatever suits their fancy.------6
I'm not sure about such things as I'm a nobody in the military world......but......I have "heard" those guys use whatever suits their fancy.------6
Re: Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45
that is true...personal weapon choice is the norm.... :)Sixgun wrote:Funny thing you should mention that....my best friend, "The Gunny" has two sons in MARSOC......and the one boy says "there ain't nothing like a 1911 .45".
I'm not sure about such things as I'm a nobody in the military world......but......I have "heard" those guys use whatever suits their fancy.------6
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Re: Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45
Seems like we hashed out this thing not that long ago regarding handgun platform and caliber. Let the boys have some solid choices for what works best for them as individuals and arm them to the teeth.
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Re: Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45
Done! Rehash of Marines prefer Glock 9mm over .45acp 1911, at least your title fits what I read in the article.
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Thanks Griff!!! -T-
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Re: Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45
Uhhh....not that I'm a professional shooter (far from it) but I've sure never heard of this. Is this accurate???A lot of professional shooters who run custom 1911s will disable that beavertail grip safety to avoid this problem....
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Pinning grip safeties has been semi-common since the 70's that I recall. I dont think its done as often today, but some obviously still do it.
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Scares the rabbit people spitless and is meat on the table for the bottom dwellers (lawyers)!Malamute wrote:Pinning grip safeties has been semi-common since the 70's that I recall. I dont think its done as often today, but some obviously still do
it.
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Re: Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45
I just don't see how you could grasp a 1911 and not engage the grip safety. Maybe just not using enough grip or non-average sized hands or something I guess.....?Malamute wrote:Pinning grip safeties has been semi-common since the 70's that I recall. I dont think its done as often today, but some obviously still do it.
I'll sure not be messing with mine. It works just fine, just as JMB intended...
Re: Marines Allow Operators to Choose Glocks over MARSOC .45
I have an old 45 before they put the grip safety on it. It has a crisper trigger pull and I am more accurate with it than a custom job with it.
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Pinning grip safeties is a lot older than the 70s......a Texas Ranger tied his down with rawhide straps in the early 20s and was known for it.
Cooper discussed pinning grip safeties from the 60s onward, before the memory bump types were around.
If you've got small hands, or your hands are wet, or you've got gloves on (which are wet).....lots of ways you might not fully depress the grip. Or your hand is weak because you just crawled up a ladder boarding a ship underway etc.
I love 1911s.....I carry Glocks.
Cooper discussed pinning grip safeties from the 60s onward, before the memory bump types were around.
If you've got small hands, or your hands are wet, or you've got gloves on (which are wet).....lots of ways you might not fully depress the grip. Or your hand is weak because you just crawled up a ladder boarding a ship underway etc.
I love 1911s.....I carry Glocks.
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that's a great statement...I started my "auto-pistol" life with a stainless Colt 80-series 1911, that was one great gun. But when I was introduced to Glocks through my LE Agency I never looked back... :)MrMurphy wrote:I love 1911s.....I carry Glocks.
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That's funny!Gascozark wrote: I'll sure not be messing with mine. It works just fine, just as JMB intended...
Check out JMB's original design and the pistols originally submitted.
The Cavalry was the primary combat users of pistols in those days, and had some ideas of their own. Changes were requested . . .
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This reminds me of a guy I know on a SWAT team. He said when he first got hired, he read all the gun magazines and bought a very expensive 1911. He was quite proud of it, an didn't think much of the officers who carried Glocks.1892 wrote:that's a great statement...I started my "auto-pistol" life with a stainless Colt 80-series 1911, that was one great gun. But when I was introduced to Glocks through my LE Agency I never looked back...MrMurphy wrote:I love 1911s.....I carry Glocks.
Then his career progressed and eventually he was selected for SWAT. Most of the stuff he did on SWAT calls involved laying in the mud. Or else he would be laying in the snow. But sometimes he would lay in the dirt. That fancy 1911 took a lot of time in disassembly and cleaning. He started to notice that the officers who carried Glocks instead of the flashiest new gun magazine rage or expensive 1911s were the older, more experienced officers. Then he was shooting at a target behind a car door, and his .45 ACP was not penetrating the door while the officer shooting next to him was hitting the target with his 9mm Glock.
He bought a Glock.
I like 1911s a lot. I don't really care for Glocks, as far as the pistol itself. In other words, I don't see a Glock and say, "Wow, what a beautiful weapon! I just love the way that pistol feels in my hand! I'd like to hang that thing on my wall for everyone to look at! I can't wait to show this thing to all my buddies! Think of the history behind this design!"
If I pick up a Glock, i'm like, "Oh, yeah. Another Glock, so what. I can shoot it well and most likely trust it to run reliably. I'd take this gun to combat."
If the 1911 is a Corvette, the Glock is the plain, unremarkable family station wagon that starts every time you turn the key and always gets the family to their destination.
And if one of the kids drops his ice cream cone on the station wagon seat, oh well.
Some like 1911s, some like Glocks, I am happy to shoot both, but I strongly believe that it is very important to use the pistol that best fits your needs AND preferences.
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Phew... I'm so glad you used a "station wagon" as your analogy... if you'd said "pickup truck"... I might have to had to seriously re-evaluate my whole outlook on the 1911/Glock conversation...7.62 Precision wrote:...1892 wrote:that's a great statement...I started my "auto-pistol" life with a stainless Colt 80-series 1911, that was one great gun. But when I was introduced to Glocks through my LE Agency I never looked back...MrMurphy wrote:I love 1911s.....I carry Glocks.
If the 1911 is a Corvette, the Glock is the plain, unremarkable family station wagon that starts every time you turn the key and always gets the family to their destination.
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