Firearms as a business expense?
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Firearms as a business expense?
Pretty simple question: Can a firearm be written off as a business expense without special guberment considerations? The idea is to use one or two pistols to model accessories we make and sell. It would seem to meet the ordinary & necessary criteria so long as it used to build the business.
Of course, this would more than likely preclude any of the usual activities associated with normal firearm ownership. I'm pretty sure it would be regulated to that of showroom piece status.
Any thoughts?
Of course, this would more than likely preclude any of the usual activities associated with normal firearm ownership. I'm pretty sure it would be regulated to that of showroom piece status.
Any thoughts?
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Re: Firearms as a business expense?
I don't know that you could write off the whole cost of a firearm, but easily you could justify the expense associated with renting one for purposes of an advertising prop. If you purchased the firearm, then 'rented' it to the advertiser, at the usual and customary charges for such rentals. I would not consider that an untoward write-off. I wouldn't try to write off the entire purchase price as there might be other types of props that could be argued as more appropriate for such use.
I suspect holster makers write off the plastic guns used as forms, and it wouldn't surprise me if one or two rented their actual guns to the holster-making business when they were used for that purpose.
But hey, I ain't an accountant or tax preparer... I leave that stuff to my wife... and she's probably more cautious than I in these matters.
I suspect holster makers write off the plastic guns used as forms, and it wouldn't surprise me if one or two rented their actual guns to the holster-making business when they were used for that purpose.
But hey, I ain't an accountant or tax preparer... I leave that stuff to my wife... and she's probably more cautious than I in these matters.
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Re: Firearms as a business expense?
Had a crazy thought... could it be that we (able bodied citizens), can write off all our guns and ammo needs, shooting trips, etc. as necessary and usual expenses necessary to defend the Constitution as members of the "militia" as defined by the 2nd Amendment?
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Re: Firearms as a business expense?
Hey now, don't get all squirrely on us here.Griff wrote:Had a crazy thought... could it be that we (able bodied citizens), can write off all our guns and ammo needs, shooting trips, etc. as necessary and usual expenses necessary to defend the Constitution as members of the "militia" as defined by the 2nd Amendment?
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That is kind of mentioned in this video.Griff wrote:Had a crazy thought... could it be that we (able bodied citizens), can write off all our guns and ammo needs, shooting trips, etc. as necessary and usual expenses necessary to defend the Constitution as members of the "militia" as defined by the 2nd Amendment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofrhqP7JWaA
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I probably see at least one victim of sexual assault every day or two, and many of them ask me about firearms for self or home protection, and I seriously thought about getting certified as an NRA basic safety instructor, and teaching them stuff instead of just referring them to local ranges (who are too saturated to get them in for six months or more to any decent classes). THEN I though how cool it would be to be able to write off all the ammo (and perhaps a few guns) as a business cost...... Unfortunately then I realized I'd still likely need to rent space at a local range, and I don't even know if they'd let me go one-on-one with a 'student' and do that...
Then there's the matter of not enough time to do all that anyway....
Then there's the matter of not enough time to do all that anyway....
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Re: Firearms as a business expense?
Where does the CDC stand on firearms these days?AJMD429 wrote:I probably see at least one victim of sexual assault every day or two, and many of them ask me about firearms for self or home protection, and I seriously thought about getting certified as an NRA basic safety instructor, and teaching them stuff instead of just referring them to local ranges (who are too saturated to get them in for six months or more to any decent classes). THEN I though how cool it would be to be able to write off all the ammo (and perhaps a few guns) as a business cost...... Unfortunately then I realized I'd still likely need to rent space at a local range, and I don't even know if they'd let me go one-on-one with a 'student' and do that...
Then there's the matter of not enough time to do all that anyway....
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Firearms are great for controlling diseased centers...
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Re: Firearms as a business expense?
See an accountant but I believe they will say you could write off the depreciation for X number of years (5-10) After which you could buy new ones and start depreciating them. Like a shop owner does with a fleet of vehicles. If you have an entity set up to do it, you buy them for the entity and the entity could depreciate the value. The rental you pay the entity to rent them would be 100% deductible. But that could get complicated.
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Here's a good law review journal article describing some of the CDC's shenanigans...BlaineG wrote:Where does the CDC stand on firearms these days?
http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/58tenn.pdf
Look especially at section "XIII, A Critique of Overt Mendacity"
It describes in great detail (with solid citations) how the CDC-funded parasitic hoplophobes are given 'legitimacy' in the pages of the New England Journal of Medicine and Journal of the American Medical Association to disseminate not only distortions and half-truths, but many times "outright fabrication of facts".
Strong words for a 'scholarly law journal' - but true.
I'd sooner rely on the pages of Guns & Ammo for advice on treating dyslipidemia, or the editorial position of American Rifleman on childhood vaccinations, than accept the illegitimate drivel the NEJM and JAMA publish on 'gun control'. . .
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Re: Firearms as a business expense?
When the VA Docs ask about firearms in my home, I shudder and say they scare me to death.AJMD429 wrote:Here's a good law review journal article describing some of the CDC's shenanigans...BlaineG wrote:Where does the CDC stand on firearms these days?
http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/58tenn.pdf
Look especially at section "XIII, A Critique of Overt Mendacity"
It describes in great detail (with solid citations) how the CDC-funded parasitic hoplophobes are given 'legitimacy' in the pages of the New England Journal of Medicine and Journal of the American Medical Association to disseminate not only distortions and half-truths, but many times "outright fabrication of facts".
Strong words for a 'scholarly law journal' - but true.
I'd sooner rely on the pages of Guns & Ammo for advice on treating dyslipidemia, or the editorial position of American Rifleman on childhood vaccinations, than accept the illegitimate drivel the NEJM and JAMA publish on 'gun control'. . .
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