Ruger making a suppressor!

[Bill in Oregon]

Just got the digital news:

http://www.ruger.com/micros/silent-sr/index.html?r=y

[claybob86]

For $450, plus the $200 (?) BATFE fee and permits and stuff, I think I'll pass.

[AJMD429]

For $450, plus the $200 (?) BATFE fee and permits and stuff, I think I'll pass.

Not a bad price IF the suppressor is versatile and can be used for multiple firearms and perhaps multiple calibers.

My LibertyCans Mystic was more expensive than that, but it threads on to 1/2x28 and 5/16x24, and accepts calibers up to 357, so for the one 'stamp' I get to shoot lots of threaded things...

Here's their 'supported cartridge' list:

• 17 M2 (RIMFIRE)
  17 HMR (RIMFIRE)
  17 WSM (RIMFIRE)
  22 SHORT (RIMFIRE)
  22 LONG (FULL AUTO)
  22 LONG RIFLE (RIMFIRE)
  22 MAGNUM (RIMFIRE)
  22 Hornet
  22 K Hornet
  218 Bee
  219 Zipper
  221 FIREBALL
  223 REM (See Note Below)
  22 PPC (See Note Below)
  30 PPC (See Note Below)
  30 Carbine
  30 Herrett
  30 Mauser
  30 – 30 Winchester
  32-20
  32 S&W Long
  32 H&R Magnum
  4.6 X 30 HK (FULL AUTO)
  5.56MM NATO
  5.7 X 28 FN (FULL AUTO)
  6MM PPC (See Note Below)
  6MM BR (See Note Below)
  7-30 Waters
  9 X 18 (FULL AUTO)
  9 X 19 (Base Caliber) (FULL AUTO)
  9 X 21
  9 X 23 (38 Super)
  9 X 23 Winchester
  9 X 25 Dillon
  9 X 25 Super Auto G
  300 BLACKOUT SUBSONIC 8” BARREL (FULL AUTO)
  300 BLACKOUT SUPERSONIC. 8” BARREL
  380 (FULL AUTO)
  38 Special
  38 S&W
  357 SIG
  357 MAGNUM
  357 MAXIMIUM
  357 Auto MAG
  357 Herrett
  338 Spectre
  300/221 FIREBALL
  300 Whisper©
  308 Win- Subsonic
  5.45x39MM Russian
  6.5 Grendel (See Note Below)
  6.8 SPC (See Note Below)
  7.62 xX25 MM (FULL AUTO)
  7.62 X 38 R
  7.62 X 39 MM

Note: All rifle calibers with chamber pressures exceeding 45,000PSI are restricted to 16″ barrels or longer. (6.8SPC, 5.56 NATO, and the like.)

Note 2: It has been found that Monarch brand 124r JHP will separate in the suppressor and can generate baffle strikes due to instability in the rounds. Please refrain from using this ammunition in your Mystic X suppressors or any other Liberty can at this time. Thank you.

[wvfarrier]

The NFA fees are a scam

[Pete44ru]

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My state doesn't allow anyone to use, buy, and/or transfer an evil silencer/suppressor/can.


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[Old Ironsights]

Potatoes, Pop Bottles and pillows are illegal?

[crs]

What is needed is for the US Congress to grow up and change the laws to make suppressors legal and keep the BATF out. !!!

[AJMD429]

My state doesn't allow anyone to use, buy, and/or transfer an evil silencer/suppressor/can.

Well at least you can feel safer, knowing that there are no criminals there who will be using suppressors...

What is needed is for the US Congress to grow up and change the laws to make suppressors legal and keep the BATF out. !!!

There is a bill in Congress to do just that. My computer crashed and I don't remember the bill number, but I have the link to the 'form letter' that was in the email I got six months or so ago about it. http://www.repealgunlaws.com/images/PDF ... or3.3F.pdf

[sore shoulder]

Gun Owners of America has been lobbying to remove suppressors from the NFA. Please support them as they have been in the vanguard of taking back and fighting to preserve our Civil Right to bear arms.
http://gunowners.org/


http://cqrcengage.com/gunowners/app/wri ... tId=141985

Time to Shoot Down Restrictions on Suppressors


Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ) has introduced the Hearing Protection Act, H.R. 3799, which restores your right to buy suppressors for your firearms.

Suppressors protect the hearing of shooters, including the young and hearing impaired.

They are of no value to criminals or mass shooters, and even homemade suppressors are rarely used in crimes.

Please contact your member of Congress NOW and ask him or her to co-sponsor H.R. 3799.

[sore shoulder]

For $450, plus the $200 (?) BATFE fee and permits and stuff, I think I'll pass.

I sympathize with this sentiment. When something as low tech and easily mass produced as a suppressor that has no moving parts costs as much as a gun, the suppressor manufacturers are taking advantage. It doesn't stop me from wanting one and/or getting one, but there is absolutely nothing involved in manufacturing one that warrants the cost. Certainly nothing made for a .22. Just when I started to have some respect for Ruger again. :/

[AJMD429]

Thanks, sore shoulder...!

Given the fact that the FBI has continued to create a 'national firearms registry' despite specific wording in the Brady Bill prohibiting that, and the fact that the ATF has said "Chore-Boy" kitchen scrubbing pads "constitute a silencer" and that "a 14-inch piece of shoestring" to be a "machine-gun", the less they are allowed to 'regulate' the better...

Of course since 'regulation' typically involves 'restriction', and either really constitutes 'infringement', it is not at all clear to me how the existence of the ATF is permitted by the Constitution.

[David]

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My state doesn't allow anyone to use, buy, and/or transfer an evil silencer/suppressor/can.

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Me either, but I sure would like to see close up of the parts, it looks "different" then what I've seen before.

I'm not sure I've seen a Mysic taken apart either.

[Old Ironsights]

For $450, plus the $200 (?) BATFE fee and permits and stuff, I think I'll pass.

I sympathize with this sentiment. When something as low tech and easily mass produced as a suppressor that has no moving parts costs as much as a gun, the suppressor manufacturers are taking advantage. It doesn't stop me from wanting one and/or getting one, but there is absolutely nothing involved in manufacturing one that warrants the cost. Certainly nothing made for a .22. Just when I started to have some respect for Ruger again. :/

Meh. For the cost of the Stamp, just get a "maker" "permit". Build your own.

Got tubing? Got Suppressor.

[Richardx]

Shop rag in a bottle that has the bottom cut off a little electrical tape to hold the "funnel" on the barrel.

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

For $450, plus the $200 (?) BATFE fee and permits and stuff, I think I'll pass.

I sympathize with this sentiment. When something as low tech and easily mass produced as a suppressor that has no moving parts costs as much as a gun, the suppressor manufacturers are taking advantage. It doesn't stop me from wanting one and/or getting one, but there is absolutely nothing involved in manufacturing one that warrants the cost. Certainly nothing made for a .22. Just when I started to have some respect for Ruger again. :/

What you are seeing is somewhat the same reason why cartridge/fixed ammo firearms cost more than muzzleloading/loose component firearms. The manufacturing processes are pretty much the same. The difference is the amount of regulations imposed by the government. Then, you throw in the fact that the majority of the silencer makers are small operations which can not absorb the extra cost as easily as a larger maker like Ruger.
If suppressors are ever legalized you will see more companies like Ruger get in and the prices will come down.

This one was over $600 and that did not include the ATF's $200.

[AJMD429]

Meh. For the cost of the Stamp, just get a "maker" "permit". Build your own.

Got tubing? Got Suppressor.

I think you're right, especially if one doesn't have to have 'state-of-the-art' light weight or compactness.

I don't know if a Form-1 or whatever it is called is faster to get than a 9-month-wait Tax Stamp...

[AJMD429]

I'm not sure I've seen a Mysic taken apart either.

Here you go:

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There are two thread adapters - one 1/2x28 for 223, 22 LR, and most 9mm's, and a 5/16x24 for 308 calibers. Some 9mm's and 357/35 calibers use a 5/16x36 I believe.

The long 'pipe' is a disassembly tool. I thought it was silly and unnecessary, but see why they included it once I let my Mystic get pretty dirty.

[David]

I'm not sure I've seen a Mysic taken apart either.

Here you go:

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There are two thread adapters - one 1/2x28 for 223, 22 LR, and most 9mm's, and a 5/16x24 for 308 calibers. Some 9mm's and 357/35 calibers use a 5/16x36 I believe.

The long 'pipe' is a disassembly tool. I thought it was silly and unnecessary, but see why they included it once I let my Mystic get pretty dirty.

I went and checked the Mystic the video is very revealing, the Ruger looked like it was multiparts that fit together.
The Mystic would be fairly easy to fabricate if one was inclined but of course I wouldn't do such a thing.