Politic's--but kindafunny,too.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Thu May 08, 2008 1:18 pm

I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THIS BUT HE/SHE DOESN'T PULL ANY PUNCHES!!!! I just wish I was the author! I know its a little long but soooo worth the read! Some very interesting points are made!

Please excuse me if it has already been posted. I don't always read the political post.

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After long and serious thought, I have decided to endorse Senator John McCain for President. I have always voted for the person and have not voted for anyone because some political party was telling me for whom I should vote.

We all know the choices by now and, that said, I do believe that the process of selecting a chief executive is deeply flawed. The words "money" and "special interests" come to mind, among many others.

Here's the way I see it:

Barack Obama, you are a fine public speaker. You are also an extremely liberal Senator from the State of Illinois which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a child of that system.

You have finally insulted my intelligence far beyond my capacity to tolerate your insults. It has nothing at all to do with your skin color. As a matter of fact, it would be so COOL to finally have an African-American for President. What a great statement that would be to the entire world that we are indeed the greatest country on earth!

But, unfortunately, General Colin Powell is not running, and YOU are NOT the man for this job!

Mr. Obama, you want me to believe that you have never heard the sermons of your own pastor, the Right Reverend "G-- D--- America" Jeremiah Wright. It is a matter of record that this has been your church for over 20 years. It is a matter of record that you were married there by this very pastor, and that your children were baptized there.

The good Reverend saw fit to visit Khadafy in Libya with you and to give a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, of all people.

We have all now seen excerpts of his sermons all over the airwaves by now. And you have publicly stated that this man IS your "spiritual mentor".

BUT, your pastor is NOT the reason I am NOT voting for you. His words were disturbing enough, but it is your own HUGE church congregation, seen jumping, hooting and howling to his words in the background that disturb me the most. And please don't tell me you attended church there and never once heard a "discouraging word" in the 20 years you attended there. Don't tell me, that in addition to the good reverend, that you are now not having anything to do with all those other people seen hooting and howling out in the audience in the background of his fiery tirades.

Even Oprah Winfrey got disgusted and walked out. I am no Oprah fan, but still she did the right thing.

Now YOU look me in the eye and ask me to believe that you never heard such language in all the years you attended there! This is like my telling you that I attended dozens of Klan rallies and never once heard the "N" word. Yep. And Bill Clinton "did not inhale".

Yes, Mr. Obama, we all have friends who have said stupid things that embarrassed us, but NOW you have asked me to believe something that is so incredibly stupid that you are telling me that I am just stupid enough to believe you. THAT is the main reason that I will never vote for you. I deeply regret that in a county teeming with enormously talented African Americans who might make a good President, the political system has chosen YOU. You are a pathetic and plastic excuse for an American who will not even salute the Flag during the Pledge of Allegiance. God forbid you ever get near the Oval Office.

Now, did I mention Bill Clinton?

AH YES! This brings us to MRS. WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, who this candidate really is, in spite of all the other names she may care to call herself. This "feminist" piece of work of course would like to be referred to as MS. and we all know who wears the pants suit in the family.

MS. Clinton, it is just as depressing to realize that there are dozens of women who would also might make a great President. But, unfortunately, the horrible state of the selection process has selected YOU. Ms. Clinton, I'm sorry, but you could not tell the truth even if water boarded.

Still you play the role of the "embarrassed but dignified noble wife". What utter malarkey! I am not voting for you for a world of reasons, but the main one is the same as my not voting for Senator Obama. You persistently insult my intelligence. It COULD be conceivably possible that you did not know about Monica Lewinsky, extremely remote, but possible if we stretch our imaginations a bit. But you turn around and then ask me to believe that you also did not know about Paula Jones and the legion of other women who were chewed up and spit out by your lecherous excuse for a husband. Puleese turn off this broken record !!!

But let's set aside your hubby's flagrant peccadilloes. The real reason I will never vote for you is that I don't think the country can survive EIGHT MORE YEARS of Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, Sandy Berger stuffing his socks with classified intelligence, Janet Reno's goon squad, and the myriad other corruptions that seem to stick to you like glue. So our former President can't keep his ##### in his pants. The REAL issue is that he committed perjury under oath when he lied about it and the pathetically-attempted cover up that followed.

Like you, he is totally incapable of telling the truth. He could not do it if you tortured him, and in voting for you, we would get the BOTH of you, all over again. The same folks who could have taken out Osama Bin Laden over 3,000 dead Americans ago !

And please stop telling me that you have "8 years of experience" to lead us. You were the freakin' first lady already, not the Commander in Chief. Jeez ! The sum of your "experience" is that of the most worrisome and incompetent meddling in the history of the White House. You even cursed your pitiful staff and the Secret Service agents who were and still are unfortunately charged with risking their lives to protect your worthless, thieving hide, and all at the expense of other people who have to work for a living.

Your single pathetic platform is to finance the illegal drugs, alcoholism and bad habits of the very lowest and most irresponsible freeloaders in America and to then "garnish the wages" (your own words) of every law-abiding and hard-working American to pay for it. This disaster you refer to as "Universal Health Care". Where have you been the last 30 years? Did you not see that socialism is a failure wherever it has been tried? Did you not notice that the Soviet Union has collapsed since it gave no reward to those who worked the hardest for the fruits of their own labors to pay for those who will not??

It is interesting to see all the dead bodies that you and your hubby have left in your wake. Suicides, mysterious deaths, cover-ups that make Richard Nixon look like a rank amateur. The utter contempt and unbelievable arrogance of some of your strongest supporters, most notably the recently resigned and disgraced Governor Eliot Spitzer, the epitome of hypocritical and malevolent arrogance gone wild, one of your most ardent, wealthy and powerful political supporters. A man the news media refuses to admit IS a "super delegate" in your own political machine, a fine example of your own "adopted" state of New York .. No wonder you moved there to run for Senator! The environment there is perfect for the likes of you !

Yes, I would vote for a woman, but I will NOT vote for YOU !

Which leaves us with Senator John McCain.

John, you are a flawed man. You are a bit old, a bit loony, and you have a notoriously bad temper. This perfectly qualifies you, in my humble opinion, to lead us for the next eight years. I WANT your trembling hand on the nuclear button. ; Think about it.

We have Kim Jong IL, Chavez and Ahmadenijad all running around like lunatics, threatening America and threatening to plunge the world into nuclear Armageddon. We have Putin and the Chinese blustering and rattling their sabers at us.. I want John McCain in the Oval Office and I want him to be really upset off at all these other nut jobs around the planet.

John, once you are elected, I want you to go into the Oval Office and throw one of your perfect FITS. Jump up and down and throw something through a plate glass window. Rip the drapes down and foam at the mouth a bit. And I want the whole thing on camera so that Ahmadinejad can see it. I want ALL of these "world leaders" to lay awake at night and to break out in a cold sweat every time they think of messing with the United States of America .. I want the nuclear button sitting right next to the alarm clock on your night stand. I want pictures of this to be sent to Iran , Russia , China , Venezuela , Cuba , Libya , Syria , Pakistan , and those other idiots in the sheets, the Saudis.

On the domestic front, poor John did try and reach across the aisle to the opposition in a desperate effort to compromise and to get the Congress to do something. You may not agree with his efforts, but at least he TRIED. For all his efforts, all he got handed to him was his head in a basket. The liberals are upset at him and the conservatives are upset at him. Just my kinda guy.

I predict that John will select Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate. Good choice. I want a JEW whose memory of the Holocaust is still fresh in his mind and who is royally upset off at all of these towel-headed morons in the Middle East to be the next in line if something should happen to John. Shalom, Vice President Joe. One heartbeat from the Oval Office.

Finally. John McCain knows on a most personal level what it is to suffer horrible torture for years and to see others die, right in front of you, for their love of America .. When you ask him about it, he will tell you that what he did was "nothing special". Even more incredibly, he states that ANY American who truly loves his country would do exactly the same as he did in that situation. You and I will have a hard time believing that, but the real point is that John McCain believes that about the "average American", and that, dear friends and neighbors, is why I will cast my one poor ballot on Election Day for John McCain -- warts and all

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:50 pm

I found that a very interesting read. Pity it ain't on every front page!

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Thu May 08, 2008 6:55 pm

Yep, she's mostly right on the money.

Boreman · Post by **Boreman** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:00 pm

AMEN!!!!! Well said..........

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:02 pm

Saw this in an e-mail. Spot on!

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:19 pm

John McCain was hip deep in the attempted cover up of the largest Savings and Loan theft and scandal in this nation's history.

Legislation sponsored, drafted, lobbied, and supported by John McCain OUTLAWED the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution for all but the media elite and politicians.

John McCain supported a direct attack on the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in the form of the Clinton Assault Weapons Bill, and stood by George W. Bush when he said he'd sign it into law if it came to his desk.

John McCain supports unrestricted amnesty for millions of criminal aliens who have invaded this nation, and intends to allow millions more to ignore our laws and join the invasion.

John McCain IS the proverbial "Manchurian candidate."

I will never vote for this enemy of the Constitution, and the American way of life.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:32 pm

FWiedner wrote:John McCain was hip deep in the attempted cover up of the largest Savings and Loan theft and scandal in this nation's history.

Legislation sponsored, drafted, lobbied, and supported by John McCain OUTLAWED the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution for all but the media elite and politicians.

John McCain supported a direct attack on the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in the form of the Clinton Assault Weapons Bill, and stood by George W. Bush when he said he'd sign it into law if it came to his desk.

John McCain supports unrestricted amnesty for millions of criminal aliens who have invaded this nation, and intends to allow millions more to ignore our laws and join the invasion.

John McCain IS the proverbial "Manchurian candidate."

I will never vote for this enemy of the Constitution, and the American way of life.

Ok, fall on that sword and let the hilderbeast or Obama appoint the next two supreme court justices.

I don't like him either but it is what it is. My vote is going to the party that will more likely appoint a conservative leaning judge.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:54 pm

Nate Kiowa Jones wrote: Ok, fall on that sword and let the hilderbeast or Obama appoint the next two supreme court justices.

I don't like him either but it is what it is. My vote is going to the party that will more likely appoint a conservative leaning judge.

+1. I can't stand McCain, other than his service in the military for our country. I formally left the GOP after Bush signed that hideous "McCain/Feingold" garbage. But, we will elect a President this fall. It will be the Democrat nominee or McCain. It is unlikely the Dem's will chuck both Hillary and Obama in favor for a more centrist, moderate Dem. Given the choice between Hillary and McCain or Obama and McCain, there is no choice. At least with McCain we have a remote chance of him keeping his word and nominating justices in the mold of Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas. With either Hillary or Obama we have no chance whatsoever. We can ill afford any further tilt towards the left on the SCOTUS. After all, they upheld McCain/Feingold.

I really, really REALLY don't like the idea of rewarding the GOP for the last several years of unmitigated idiocy, but I'm just not willing to stick the country with either of the two leftists running for the Dem's...

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:49 pm

Based on his record, I have no reason whatsoever to believe that John McCain will select any Supreme Court Justice that will ever decide to benefit any endeavor of the American People, or any right we hold dear.

It's my view that neither candidate, McCain, Obama, or Clinton is the right person for the job and I am not going to vote for any of them simply because they happen to wear a false (R) or a (D). I truly believe that not one of them will serve the best interests of this nation.

I will not vote for the perpertual installation of evil men and corrupt party politics into the oval office, and I will not join the pack running for the cliff trying to avoid imaginary terror.

While he may not ever gain the office, my vote will be cast for Ron Paul.

DavidF · Post by **DavidF** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:18 am

FWiedner wrote:Based on his record, I have no reason whatsoever to believe that John McCain will select any Supreme Court Justice that will ever decide to benefit any endeavor of the American People, or any right we hold dear.

It's my view that neither candidate, McCain, Obama, or Clinton is the right person for the job and I am not going to vote for any of them simply because they happen to wear a false (R) or a (D). I truly believe that not one of them will serve the best interests of this nation.

I will not vote for the perpertual installation of evil men and corrupt party politics into the oval office, and I will not join the pack running for the cliff trying to avoid imaginary terror.

While he may not ever gain the office, my vote will be cast for Ron Paul.

+1

Dastook · Post by **Dastook** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:22 am

Ysabel Kid wrote:Saw this in an e-mail. Spot on!

+1

timkelley · Post by **timkelley** » Fri May 09, 2008 5:54 pm

Only thing I can see to do is vote for the one who will damage the country the least. If I don't, I may get the one who will damage the country the most.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:45 pm

FWiedner wrote:Based on his record, I have no reason whatsoever to believe that John McCain will select any Supreme Court Justice that will ever decide to benefit any endeavor of the American People, or any right we hold dear.

It's my view that neither candidate, McCain, Obama, or Clinton is the right person for the job and I am not going to vote for any of them simply because they happen to wear a false (R) or a (D). I truly believe that not one of them will serve the best interests of this nation.

I will not vote for the perpertual installation of evil men and corrupt party politics into the oval office, and I will not join the pack running for the cliff trying to avoid imaginary terror.

While he may not ever gain the office, my vote will be cast for Ron Paul.

Good plan but that's exactly how we ended up with Bill Clinton first time. Remember Parrot?

Kelley wrote:Only thing I can see to do is vote for the one who will damage the country the least. If I don't, I may get the one who will damage the country the most.

Sad but true. We didn't get into this mess over night and we aint gonna get out of over night either. In the short haul it don't matter what the knotheads in congress or the white house do. It aint law until the SCOTUS hears it. For the long haul, that's the prize we must stay focused on.

piller · Post by **piller** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:53 pm

I am still undecided on whom to vote for. I'm not too happy with the choices. While I think that Ron Paul may be the best choice, he really has no chance. I may have to vote against Obama or Hillary and mark McCain. The lesser of the two evils is not giving me the warm fuzzies.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:57 pm

NKJ wrote:Remember Parrot?

I'm sorry, I don't know what this question refers to.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Fri May 09, 2008 9:04 pm

FWiedner wrote:
NKJ wrote:Remember Parrot?
I'm sorry, I don't know what this question refers to.

oops. Spelled ROSS PEROT

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Fri May 09, 2008 9:15 pm

Ah yes, Mr. Perot.

I voted for him. Twice.

He is a fine American.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri May 09, 2008 9:28 pm

Couple-o-things:

First, a Slogan:

Obama - Because Chicago Style Politics in Washington DC is exactly the "Change" America needs...

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Prediction: (I hope to G_d I'm wrong about A, B & D, but I doubt it)

(A) Mrs. WJ Clintoon wins the Democrat Primary: Blacks "Disenfranchised". Race Riots Start.

(B) O-Hussein-O wins the Primary but loses the General because "disenfranchised" Fembots, MI & FL vote for McChurian: Blacks "Disenfranchised". Race Riots Start

(C) O-Hussein-O wins the Primary but "Bitter" (D)s, Fembots, MI, FL, and the genuinely Constitutionally minded (R)s, (L)s & (I)s decide to give (L) a chance rather than voting for evil (all be it the Lesser of 3 evils). Gridlock and the Chaos of Liberty ensues.

(D) O-Hussein-O Wins it All and is told by his Black Liberation Theology/Radical Leftist backers to push Slavery Reparations:
.....(1) Because he's not totally stupid, he declines. Race Riots Start.
.....(2) He gets bullied into it and instantly Tanks an already shaky economy. General Riots Start.

Three paths lead to Riots and loss of Rights (guns first). One doesn't.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Fri May 09, 2008 9:32 pm

FWiedner wrote:Ah yes, Mr. Perot.

I voted for him. Twice.

He is a fine American.

Your honor, I rest my case.

Rimfire McNutjob · Post by **Rimfire McNutjob** » Fri May 09, 2008 10:35 pm

FWiedner wrote:Ah yes, Mr. Perot.

I remember his thoughts on NAFTA. We're going to hear a "giant sucking sound coming from south of the border as all of the jobs head that way."

I think it may have turned out to be more of a flushing sound as the jobs didn't have to move because 12 million people from south of the border just walked over it.

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:36 am

It's my view that neither candidate, McCain, Obama, or Clinton is the right person for the job and I am not going to vote for any of them simply because they happen to wear a false (R) or a (D). I truly believe that not one of them will serve the best interests of this nation.

F Wiedner's statment reminds me of a dilemna I have, whether or not to "waste" my vote. I've voted Republican since 1993, sometimes as the lesser of two evils. Recently I switched my party affilliation to Libertarian, which is more in line with my beliefs.

So I may also "waste" my vote. But it counts in another way. If third party candidates get higher percentages, it may send a message to the Republican Party not to become "Democrat Lite" the second they're sworn in, and vice versa.

That would take a very long time, but might be a way to really change things.

bunklocoempire · Post by **bunklocoempire** » Sat May 10, 2008 5:07 am

FWiedner wrote:

Based on his record, I have no reason whatsoever to believe that John McCain will select any Supreme Court Justice that will ever decide to benefit any endeavor of the American People, or any right we hold dear.

It's my view that neither candidate, McCain, Obama, or Clinton is the right person for the job and I am not going to vote for any of them simply because they happen to wear a false (R) or a (D). I truly believe that not one of them will serve the best interests of this nation.

I will not vote for the perpertual installation of evil men and corrupt party politics into the oval office, and I will not join the pack running for the cliff trying to avoid imaginary terror.

While he may not ever gain the office, my vote will be cast for Ron Paul.

+1

Choosing the lesser of two evils and wishing and hopeing hasn't worked out well in the past for my own affairs, why would I think it would work in an election/government? Doing the right thing is always an option.

Bunkloco

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Sat May 10, 2008 2:03 pm

James Carville, the evil looking DNC strategist and former Clinton advisor made a state about this. I have looked for it but I canâ€™t find the exact wording but the gist of his statement was The DNC is counting on a number of hard core conservatives not voting for McCain or voting Libertarian. They would love to see a strong conservative independent running. They know it will have the same effect as the Ralph Nader vote.

I feel McCain can beat Obama but maybe not Clinton. But, if Obama selects Clinton as VP then McCain probably wonâ€™t win without total support from the right.

You guys are thinking short term.

The only thing that comes close to being permanent change in this country is the rulings of the Supreme Court. I donâ€™t care whoâ€™s in the Whitehouse as long as they appoint conservative judges.

That's the long term prize.

Lionhound · Post by **Lionhound** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:11 pm

Ross Perot called the Brady Bill "a timid step in the right direction". I do not consider him a great American.