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Learn Me Something About My New To Me 1886
The Japchester ELR, tang safety, no half cock: Do I need to engage the safety with a round in the chamber? I'm used to the half cock position.
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I don't think so. If it does not have the half cock, it will have the rebounding hammer action. They are designed so you must pull the trigger to allow the hammer to go all the way forward.
With the gun empty, lower the hammer to the rest position and push it forward without pulling the trigger. You shouldn't be able to push it all the way forward.
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I don't think so. If it does not have the half cock, it will have the rebounding hammer action. They are designed so you must pull the trigger to allow the hammer to go all the way forward.
With the gun empty, lower the hammer to the rest position and push it forward without pulling the trigger. You shouldn't be able to push it all the way forward.
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+1 for what Boge said.
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I had one of those and it was a superb rifle. Re. the rebounding hammer. Treat it like half-cock. I never used the safety .... I never used it. With the rebounding hammer not resting on the firing pin, it's just like half cock. With the old Winchsters, half cock is my safety and it still is with the new rebounding hammers I've had.
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I used to have one just like yours. It was an accurate gun. Like others have said just leave the safety on fire, and treat the rebounding hammer position like a half cock.
Now the bad news, That rebounding hammer system in the 1886 Extra Lightweight, has been know to misfire. I did not experience this at first, but after a few boxes of shells, I started getting misfires, as others have mentioned on this and other forums. The rebounding hammer spring is the problem.
I didn't know for sure at the time, what the problems was, and ended up trading the gun off, because I can't stand a gun that isn't 100% reliable. I suspected it has something to do with the rebounding hammer, but it wasn't comfirmed until I started reading posts on this forum.
So you may have to deal with this problem, someday. Maybe someone else on here can direct you to or reproduce the post dealing with fixing the problem.
Now the bad news, That rebounding hammer system in the 1886 Extra Lightweight, has been know to misfire. I did not experience this at first, but after a few boxes of shells, I started getting misfires, as others have mentioned on this and other forums. The rebounding hammer spring is the problem.
I didn't know for sure at the time, what the problems was, and ended up trading the gun off, because I can't stand a gun that isn't 100% reliable. I suspected it has something to do with the rebounding hammer, but it wasn't comfirmed until I started reading posts on this forum.
So you may have to deal with this problem, someday. Maybe someone else on here can direct you to or reproduce the post dealing with fixing the problem.
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Thanks! I just wasn't sure about this one.......I don't use the CBS on my Marlins, but I didn't want to carry around the rifle with a firing pin on the primer
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The inertia firing pin is a safety feature also.
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Here's the tutorial (w/pics) on the rebounding hammer misfire fix:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=12077
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=12077
I took the more costly way to rid my gun of the rebounding hammer and tang safety. I replaced the hammer, trigger and trigger spring with Browning parts and had the tang safety slot welded in. The tang was then remarked as an early 20th Century '86 would be.
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OKAY...YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING NEW ABOUT YORE NEW 1886 LEVERACTION SHELLSHUCKER HUH. WELL HERE YOU GO...
IT WAS DESIGNED BY JOHN MOSES YAMAMOTO WHO SOLD THE DESIGN TO THE MIRAKU COMPANY, A LEVERAGED COMPANY OWNED OUTRIGHT BY THE J.A.PAN COMPANY.
THERE, HOW 'BOUT THAT STUFF HUH ??!!! NOT EVERY DAY YOU GET THE STRAIGHT UNVARNISHED TRUTH LIKE THAT.
IT WAS MY PLEASURE.
DISMISSED.
IT WAS DESIGNED BY JOHN MOSES YAMAMOTO WHO SOLD THE DESIGN TO THE MIRAKU COMPANY, A LEVERAGED COMPANY OWNED OUTRIGHT BY THE J.A.PAN COMPANY.
THERE, HOW 'BOUT THAT STUFF HUH ??!!! NOT EVERY DAY YOU GET THE STRAIGHT UNVARNISHED TRUTH LIKE THAT.
IT WAS MY PLEASURE.
DISMISSED.
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Thanks much for posting this info. One question, what would one use to cut the hammer strut and then polish the cut portion? I assume a hack saw and file but wanted to pose the question anyway. Also is there any play in the hammer once this has been accomplished? I ask this because when the hammer is fully forward the rebounding feature acts as a sort of halfcock. Thanks. 1886.
Terry Murbach wrote:OKAY...YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING NEW ABOUT YORE NEW 1886 LEVERACTION SHELLSHUCKER HUH. WELL HERE YOU GO...
IT WAS DESIGNED BY JOHN MOSES YAMAMOTO WHO SOLD THE DESIGN TO THE MIRAKU COMPANY, A LEVERAGED COMPANY OWNED OUTRIGHT BY THE J.A.PAN COMPANY.
THERE, HOW 'BOUT THAT STUFF HUH ??!!! NOT EVERY DAY YOU GET THE STRAIGHT UNVARNISHED TRUTH LIKE THAT.
IT WAS MY PLEASURE.
DISMISSED.
I feel all larned up, now.....
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Not quite. All of the work set me back somewhat less than that. The Browning parts were nearly as expensive as the smith work.Crazy Horse wrote:MikeD, I love the way your tang looks after the the work. I bet all that set you back $500 or so!!!!
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I used a dremel. I cut the sear and half cock notch to engage properly and super-glued a shim to the hammer to reduce trigger pull weight. The shim is still there after a hundred heavy loads.1886 wrote:Thanks much for posting this info. One question, what would one use to cut the hammer strut and then polish the cut portion? I assume a hack saw and file but wanted to pose the question anyway. Also is there any play in the hammer once this has been accomplished? I ask this because when the hammer is fully forward the rebounding feature acts as a sort of halfcock. Thanks. 1886.
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