Rossi .44 magnum magazine tube problem

[jbeicker]

Hi, I am new to sign on but have been reading in the background for a while now. I was recently given a winchester 1892 in .38-40 and while i was at the dealer letting him tell me about it I saw its close copy that rossi makes in .44 magnum with 20in oct brrl and i had to have it since i already reload these and wanted a Henry anyway. I have shot the rossi about 40 times(very accurate) and I noticed that the magazine tube had walked forward about an inch and a half. I tried to remove the screw that fits in the hole in the end of the barrel and push the tube back but i can't get the screw out. I finally just held the tube back with my hand and lightly bumped it back into place. I shot it again yesterday 5 times and it did it again. I read one post on here that said it was from too heavy of loading but i always load pretty moderately and never on the high side according to my loading manual. The bullets were 240 grain JHP and H110 powder. Not sure on the powder weight but i can look. Is there an easy fix to this problem or should I just take it back to the dealer or call Rossi? Gun is brand new out of the box.

[brno602]

Hi, I am new to sign on but have been reading in the background for a while now. I was recently given a winchester 1892 in .38-40 and while i was at the dealer letting him tell me about it I saw its close copy that rossi makes in .44 magnum with 20in oct brrl and i had to have it since i already reload these and wanted a Henry anyway. I have shot the rossi about 40 times(very accurate) and I noticed that the magazine tube had walked forward about an inch and a half. I tried to remove the screw that fits in the hole in the end of the barrel and push the tube back but i can't get the screw out. I finally just held the tube back with my hand and lightly bumped it back into place. I shot it again yesterday 5 times and it did it again. I read one post on here that said it was from too heavy of loading but i always load pretty moderately and never on the high side according to my loading manual. The bullets were 240 grain JHP and H110 powder. Not sure on the powder weight but i can look. Is there an easy fix to this problem or should I just take it back to the dealer or call Rossi? Gun is brand new out of the box.

If you are in the U.S ( Rossi does not want to help us Canucks so I will not buy another) Send it back to them I like my 92 in .45 but have No factory support. But new anything that goes wrong send it back! Make them fix it and if they do not tell the world, word of mouth is best customer service but they should fix the problem for you. I ran into the simple problem of no body wanting to send me a scope mount! I like the gun but gee the company sucks! in after you buy it support but most due now aday's the down fall to everything we trust and believe in, Just send it back and get them to fix it it's a new gun and should have no problems bottom line.

[jlchucker]

I've got a couple of Rossi leverguns and no trouble so far. One a 44 magnum (EMF Hartford), and the newer one made after the takeover by Taurus (Braztech). Is it Taurus that is the ultimate negligent party in terms of customer service? Or the original Rossi? Lots of guys have posted on this and other websites expressing great satisfaction with the Model 92's. Are we witnessing a recent decline in quality and customer service?

[J Miller]

jbeicker,

Welcome to the forum.

I'm not positive on how Rossi retains their magazine tube on the octagon barrels, but normally it's done with a cross pin in the front magazine hanger and a screw through the magazine plug that fits into a small hole on the bottom of the barrel. If these are not there, or are broken or not fitted right, the tube will move as yours is doing.

I agree about sending back to the factory or their authorized service center.
If that doesn't work, here is where to send it for a real good fixing:

Steve Young aka Nate Kiowa Jones Sass# 6765

Steve's Guns aka "Rossi 92 Specialists"
4525 Alamosa st.
Port Arthur TX 77642
www.stevesgunz.com
Email; steve@stevesgunz.com
Tel: 409-984-5473

Steve is a member here and might post an answer if he sees this thread.

Joe

[jbeicker]

Thanks for everyones replies and welcome. I will get ahold of the dealer this weekend and see what he says. I agree it is brand new and it should not be doing this. I really like the gun though it is a real monster compared to the light mannered .38-40 winchester.

[Pete44ru]

It sounds like too much mag spring - It could be that your 20" carbine got gifted with the longer spring meant for a 24" barreled rifle, in error.

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[adirondakjack]

It sounds like too much mag spring - It could be that your 20" carbine got gifted with the longer spring meant for a 24" barreled rifle, in error.

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That could be. A mag tube spring when not compressed ought to be 4" longer than the mag tube or so. (I just generally grab a handful beyond the mag tube, then cut it just beyond my hand). Any longer serves no purpose unless the mag tube is extra cruddy, and makes em load harder.

[J Miller]

If a little more spring tension causes the mag tube to over ride the cross pin and mag plug screw then there is something else wrong.

I've measured every factory tube spring in my guns and they are all around 4" longer than the tube. But that still won't cause the tube to over ride the mountings.

Joe

[Pete44ru]

Think about stuffing the 30" long magazine spring, meant for a 24" barreled rifle, into a 20" magazine tube, THEN loading 5 or 6 rounds in there too, and tell me there's not enough pressure when the recoil from firing's added in.

Jes' sayin'....................................................

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[J Miller]

Oh sure there's lots of pressure in there, no doubt about it. But if the magazine is properly mounted it's not going anywhere.

Joe

[Bruce Scott]

After I replaced the plastic follower in my Rossi carbine I had the same thing happen. It turned out that I had not fully tightened the mag plug screw into the barrel.

I will be interested to find out what is happening with your gun and how it gets fixed.

[jbeicker]

Well... I took it back to the dealer and we got the tube put back in and adjusted the plug screw in hopes that this would fix it. I took it home and the first shot it popped out. I shot 4 more times and it continued to keep moving. I guess it will be going back to rossi. Hopefully that doesn't take too long. Thanks for everyones replies.

[Joel]

My Rossi 44 mag is an older model, did exactly the same thing. Steve Young gave me some great advice as to how to fix it, haven't had the money to do it right so I went with lock-tite. A whole box of 240 fnsp grain winchesters later and it is still holding up.

I'll try to find my thread and put a link here

Here it is:

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=25577