Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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I am thinking about picking up a 5# jug of Trail Boss for my 45-70. I just picked up a carbine and am looking for a TrapDoor level load for the new rifle. Also thinking about a new 3000 grain mold.

I am also interested in any other loads you guys have come up with for Trail Boss and the 45 Colt. I am interested in "Gallery Loads" and up to medium power loads for the 45 Colt.

And is anyone doing any "Gallery Loads" with the 45-70 and Trail Boss??

Just looking for your opinion on Trail Boss. I have a good bit of RL-7 and 2400 for my heavier loads in the two cartridges. But I am more interested in lower level loads for a couple of new-lighter firearms I have picked up. Any input is helpful. Thanks guys, Tom.
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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A general rule of thumb for TB is measure the case capacity at the bottom of the bullet seating depth and then start at 70% of that. Work up from there til you get what you want. Also, never compress TB as it will spike pressures quickly.
I use it to get very accurate an sweet shooting loads in 357 and even 38 spec.

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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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12 grains of Trail Boss is mild and fun with 405 cast in the 45-70. Around 950 fps.

14 grains will get you 1150fps with a cast 300.

Have fun! :D

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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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You might have trouble finding a 3000 gr. mould. :o :wink:

Thats a little less than a 1/2 pound ya know.
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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That 3000 grain bulllet will be HOW long? Trail boss is dandy for plinking loads in the 45-70 and for 45 Colt 5.0 grains is a nice 700+ fps load. I shoot 4.5 in my 45 Schofield as the standard load.
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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KCSO wrote:That 3000 grain bulllet will be HOW long?

It's only for single shot rifles. :D
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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I've used between 12 and 14 grains of TB with a 405 cast bullet in my 1886 .45-70 and it makes for a mild load.

4.5 grains of TB with a 250-grain LRN-FP in the .45 Colt is a very pleasant "CAS" type load.
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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I tried TB in my ruger 45 colt.I never got the accuracy I do with red dot or unique.
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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I am assuming for the 45-70 TB loads you are using a standard LR primer. And a Large pistol magnum primer for the 45 Colt with TB?? Tom.
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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I shoot 6.0 gr under a 200 gr RN for CAS. Less works good but with 6 my Vaquaro`s hit right where the sights are looking for me.

14 gr. under a 300 -350gr. cast bullet is a soft accurate load in my .45-70`s .
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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I ran across a loading chart for Trail Boss out in the barn today. I looked at it, and thought I needed to do something with it. So I smoothed it out and put it back. I'll get it in the morning and scan it in for you.
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Re: Trail Boss in the 45 Colt and 45-70

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I use Trail boss for my 45 Colt Cowboy loads. I use 5.2 Grains with a 250 grain RNFP lead bullet and get about 700 FPS
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