Wolverines??

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:26 pm

What do you fellers know of wolverines?? I believe they are quite formidable. Do any of you see any? Does anybody hunt them? Got any pics?
Thanks Nath.

Terry Murbach · Post by **Terry Murbach** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:28 pm

OH BOY, THEY'RE NASTY BASTARDS. MOST OF 'EM HANG OUT AROUND SOUTH EAST MICHIGAN IN A TOWN CALLED ANN ARBOR WHICH IS EQUALLY FAMOUS FOR IT'S STEERS, QUEERS, AND FLAMING COMMUNISTS. LUCKILY THERE IS ANOTHER EQUALLY FAMOUS NASTY BASTARD CALLED A BUCKEYE AND HE KEEPS THE WOLVERINES IN CHECK BY KICKING THEIR COLLECTIVE BUTTS AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. THEY CANNOT BREED AFTER THAT FOR A YEAR.
I SWEAR THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH !!!
I AM TOO SOBER.....!!!!!!

Post by **Paco** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:39 pm

THEY ARE NATURE'S REALLY CRAZY ANIMAL.. EVEN BEARS TEN TIMES THEIR WEIGHT KEEP CLEAR.... THEY WILL FOLLOW A TRAP LINE AND KILL AND TEAR APPART EVERYTHING CAPTURED IN IT... THEY BREAK INTO CABINS AND FOUL AND DESTROY EVERYTHING THEY CAN... THEY WILL ATTACK MAN ONLY IF THEY ARE TRAPPED... BUT IF THEY DO IT IS TERRIBLE, VERY HARD TO STOP..... PACO

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:54 pm

Terry Murbach wrote:OH BOY, THEY'RE NASTY BASTARDS. MOST OF 'EM HANG OUT AROUND SOUTH EAST MICHIGAN IN A TOWN CALLED ANN ARBOR WHICH IS EQUALLY FAMOUS FOR IT'S STEERS, QUEERS, AND FLAMING COMMUNISTS. LUCKILY THERE IS ANOTHER EQUALLY FAMOUS NASTY BASTARD CALLED A BUCKEYE AND HE KEEPS THE WOLVERINES IN CHECK BY KICKING THEIR COLLECTIVE BUTTS AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. THEY CANNOT BREED AFTER THAT FOR A YEAR.
I SWEAR THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH !!!
I AM TOO SOBER.....!!!!!!

LMAO!

spaceman spiff · Post by **spaceman spiff** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:03 pm

They are the North American version of the African Honey Badger. The largest land dwelling Weasel, it's truly an imposing animal. Though Michigan has been dubbed the "Wolverine State" It's quite likely that Wolverines have never lived here. One theory is that there was a bustling Wolverine pelt trade in Sault Ste. Marie during the 18th Century hence the nickname.
A while back there was a documentary of Wolverines on Discovery HD theater. Here's a link to the guy that did the filming.

http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/wi ... rview.html

Regards,

Troy

pokynojoe · Post by **pokynojoe** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:30 pm

pound for pound the only thing more ornery than a bearcat is my wife.

Joe

bigbore442001 · Post by **bigbore442001** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:41 pm

As stated above, they are the largest member of the weasel family.They are like fishers or locally refered to as fisher cats on steriods. They have thick brown fur and non retractable claws. If a wolverine is more testy than a fisher cat they I have to respect that animal. I have trapped fishers a number of times in cage traps and they always impress me as to how strong and vicious they can be. I will cover the cage with a cotton sheet when there is snow out to make a cubby. Every time I have found the sheet pulled through a 1/2" square into the trap. Tell me how strong a 15 lb animal has to be to do that? Now wolverines are much larger.

From what I know the best medicince for wolverines is a #330 conibear.

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:02 pm

Wolverines/Badgers are beautiful animals. This one is. But they are some tough, nasty, mean, animals. They will back a mountain lion off it's kill in a heart beat.

You don't actually have to corner one to make him charge/attack you. You just have to make him THINK he is cornered in order for him to go beserk.

I generally kill 3 to 5 of them each year while shooting ground squirrels. Badgers will burrow into a ground squirrel den looking for dinner much like a coyote will. Sometimes while shooting ground squirrels, a Badger will take issue with being disturbed while taking a nap and come up out of his hole with teeth flashing and claws bared.

Oh, they are fast too. If one ever comes for you, you'd better start shooting as it is very difficult to evade/out run them and they are stubborn and won't quit/back off one bit.

Marlin .35 · Post by **Marlin .35** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:12 pm

I have hunted the Adirondak and Catskill Mountains for over 25 years and have only seen one Fisher. I did not shoot him cause they are rare up there. And, I wasen't going to eat him!!! The terrible stories that have been written about the Wolverine are true. I never want to tangle with all that power. Art

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:46 pm

What exactly is the difference between a wolverine and a badger?

wm · Post by wm » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:39 pm

Badgers are from Wisconsin and Wolverines are from Michigan

A little big ten humor!

Grizzly Adams · Post by **Grizzly Adams** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:33 am

I used to encounter them at times when I was in Alaska. They sure have an attitude! Got a "mad on" all the time!

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:31 am

Badgers are from Wisconsin and Wolverines are from Michigan

We have badgers in Texas (like the ones pictured in the earlier post), but they are definately NOT wolverines.

According to Wikipedia: "The wolverine (Gulo gulo) is the largest land-dwelling species of the Mustelidae or weasel family (the Giant Otter is largest overall), and is the only species currently classified in the genus Gulo (meaning "glutton"). "

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:10 am

I think theyare all females.

Rusty <><

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:40 am

A Badger will make a mess of a coon dogs face, I know that for sure. Don't see them too much. But I have been seeing a lot more fishers lately.

k8bor · Post by **k8bor** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:51 am

Michigan use to be full of wolverines, thus the name "Wolverine State." However, back in the late 1800's or early 1900's hunters and trapper made the wolverine go the way of the grizzly bear and wolf in this state....extinct. I'm all for conservation of species, but as far as I'm concerned, the wolverines can stay away.

They've re-established the wolf back in the UP and as far as I'm (and everyone in the UP I've talked to) is concerned, the wolf should have stayed away too. We got along really well for a hundred and twenty years without them..........

dkmlever · Post by **dkmlever** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:59 am

I saw one in AK on a hunt, looked like a small bear lopping along the hills, you could tell even at 500 yards it was a powerful animal. I will cherish that sighting memory.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:59 am

YK, the Badger is really slung low, they look almost like they drag their belly on the ground. They mainly dig for ground squirrels, moles and other varmints that live in the ground. They have really long front claws developed just for digging the critters out. They won't pass up anything else to eat if it's available.

The Wolverine will dig some but that's not how it generally get's it's food. It generally hunts above ground for smaller sized game. It's a big scavenger and it's stamina to travel is legendary. It has a trotting gait like a dog and it can go forever. It's one aggressive little bugger. It'll push some good sized predators off of game without a thought.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:36 pm

Thanks fellers, send some over here I like a challenge

Our badger is nocturnal and shy untill it is cornered. I will never forget one windy night we snook up on a big boar badger with his head in the turf. My friend had some new wellingtons boots on and I beckoned him to kick the badger up it's @ss. He did and before he knew it the badger had hold of his new boot and punctured it just missing his toes

I just managed to keep my pants dry

Nath

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:42 pm

A big ground hog will try to run up your leg when wounded, too. Ditto on coons.

k8bor · Post by **k8bor** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:52 pm

That's why I go to my 1894C now when the coons start tearing up the bird feeders in the back yard. I've had them charge me after 5-6 .22lr's.

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:19 pm

about a year ago someone seems to have found a wolverine alive in SE Michigan... I think in Genessee county (thats the Flint area). I dont remember the details but they ran some video on the news

Wolverines have been thought to be extinct in Mi for years... Of course the DNR said the same of Cougars and wolfs too.
~Jeff

Kilroy6644 · Post by **Kilroy6644** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:14 pm

Hillbilly wrote:about a year ago someone seems to have found a wolverine alive in SE Michigan... I think in Genessee county (thats the Flint area). I dont remember the details but they ran some video on the news

Wolverines have been thought to be extinct in Mi for years... Of course the DNR said the same of Cougars and wolfs too.
~Jeff

Indeed. It was in Bad Axe, in the Thumb. This particular wolverine was found to be from Alaska, but no one is quite sure how she got here.

This site hasn't been updated in a while, but there's some good stuff here about the Thumb wolverine.
http://www.wolverineguy.com/

BAGTIC · Post by **BAGTIC** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:59 pm

Wolverines were originally endemic to Michigan. They are also found in far northerm Europe and Asia. I recall a video of someone in Sweden (?) who had several that followed him about like cocker spaniels. They were very playful and gentle.

BTW, one of the other names for wolverines was 'Bearcat' a name bestowed of the classic Stutz Bearcat roadster. And then there is 'Wolverine' brand footwear.

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:44 pm

BAGTIC wrote:Wolverines were originally endemic to Michigan. They are also found in far northerm Europe and Asia. I recall a video of someone in Sweden (?) who had several that followed him about like cocker spaniels. They were very playful and gentle.

BTW, one of the other names for wolverines was 'Bearcat' a name bestowed of the classic Stutz Bearcat roadster. And then there is 'Wolverine' brand footwear.

Hey, so was Siegfried & Roy's tiger. Not to mention Timothy's bear. It's a wild critter. If you take in into your home, don't be surprised when it turns.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:29 pm

While look on youtube for nature videos I found this wolf and wolverine fight.

thought i would share

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfq_-oVk ... re=related

Johnny

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:45 pm

There are stories in AK about wounded wolverines waiting untin a hunting party has bedded down then they come into camp, drag away/break the "fire sticks" then go sit on a sleeping bag... before tearing into the occupant.

Probably mostly legend, but still.... they are waaaay to smart to mess with.

Kansas Ed · Post by **Kansas Ed** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:06 pm

The badger discussion reminded me of a little incident in my youth:

First you have to understand my Paternal Grandfather. He didn't always make the best spur of the moment decisions which many will attest to...matter of fact he thought that not only he was invincible, but that all those around him were also. "Can't" was never a word in his vocabulary. All of us Grandkids idolized him, and there was never anything he wouldn't do for us. He was the Patriarch of not only his own family but also many families and neighbors around him.....but I digress.

I suppose I was about 12 or 13 years old, and had gone to spend a week at his farm in Ionia Mo. at the time. He had leased the field across the road, and had baled it in big bales. I was tasked to take the 2020 John Deere and move all of the hay into the barn lot. I was working away, when I came across this substanially sized mound of fresh dirt near a hole. I drove the tractor over to the hole and was looking at it when a badger stuck his nose out of the hole. That was the first one I had ever seen and thought that was pretty neat.
When I got back to the house with the current bale, I hopped off the tractor and went in and told Grandpa: "There's a badger in a hole over there." Grandpa went nuts..."G#$ Da&* coyote bait!! Grab a shovel! he says.
Now Grandpa had this bait he prepared for his coyote traps, which was shoot what ever would stink good, put it in a gallon jar on top of the tin roof and leave it there till winter to ferment...really ripe that stuff was...
So off we went with a single shot Winchester .22, a hand full of shorts, and a spade. When we got to the hole he puts me on the shovel while he held the rifle. That badger was digging about as fast as I could...I can still see the dirt flying out of that hole and me trying to catch up. He hit some harder soil or rocks or something which allowed me a little more gain on him...and when we could see his butt, Grandpa put 3 or 4 shots into his back side to slow him down...at this point...and I'll never forget this statement...he says..

"Now reach down there and grab that stub *** of a tail and drag him out."

I started to argue, but Grandpa say's: "I'll shoot him before he gets you." Well, he takes the shovel in one hand, holds the rifle in the other, and I bend over to grab that "stub *** of a tail."

It all happened so fast it was amazing...I grabbed and yanked...and just as his head came out of the hole he started coming around on me...the shovel went between the badger and the hole, and the rifle cracked. Mr. Badger went limp. .22 short straight through the top of the head. I looked at those grinning teeth and those 3" needle sharp claws and determined that I would NEVER allow myself to be put in that situation again....

To this day I still marvel that my Grandfather didn't ever get one of us grandkids seriously injured, but he was still the greatest Grandfather of all time.

Ed

getitdone1 · Post by **getitdone1** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:06 pm

Kansas Ed,

Outstanding story ! Very well told !

Don McCullough

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:40 pm

WOLVERINES!

Kansas Ed,

BHB · Post by **BHB** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:10 pm

"WOLVERINES!!!!"

jkbrea · Post by **jkbrea** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:23 am

I think there reincarnated ex-wives.

Idahoser · Post by **Idahoser** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:33 pm

Nath wrote:Thanks fellers, send some over here I like a challenge Our badger is nocturnal and shy untill it is cornered. I will never forget one windy night we snook up on a big boar badger with his head in the turf. My friend had some new wellingtons boots on and I beckoned him to kick the badger up it's @ss. He did and before he knew it the badger had hold of his new boot and punctured it just missing his toes I just managed to keep my pants dry
Nath

I think I remember seeing that commercial during last year's Superbowl...

Yeah, this is the one I was waiting for.

BHB wrote:"WOLVERINES!!!!"

bigbore442001 · Post by **bigbore442001** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:28 pm

I'd love to have a wolverine hat. Be quite the conversation starter.

buckeyeshooter · Post by **buckeyeshooter** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:34 pm

Terry,
you can visit here anytime!! OH-----------IO!!

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:43 pm

Rusty wrote:I think theyare all females.

Rusty <><

Hilarious!

bogie

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:53 pm

Blackhawk wrote:While look on youtube for nature videos I found this wolf and wolverine fight.

thought i would share

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfq_-oVk ... re=related

Johnny

AMAZING!

I'm kinda proud of that wolf! He hung in there for quite a while. If winter food weren't so scarce, he would have quit a lot earlier though.

Thanks for the link!

bogie

cubrock · Post by **cubrock** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:08 am

Pound for pound, I think the badger has the wolverine beat. I once saw a nature video where a wolverine messed with a badger. The badger won with the wolverine running off in the end.

That being said, I wouldn't want to mess with either of them. Love to see them in the wild, though.

As stated earlier, wolverines' stamina is legendary. I can't remember how big their home territories usually are, but it is in the hundreds of square miles. They are constantly wandering, often covering over 20 miles PER DAY. Seeing one in the wild is very uncommon, as their large territory means very low population density.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:06 pm

Good vid, thanks fellers. Could use a truck load of them tipping up over here

Nath.

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