Have all y'all missed these new Mossbergs?

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:13 am

http://mossberg.com/products/default.as ... n=products

Leverdude · Post by **Leverdude** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:37 am

Dang, that thing might just have spoilt my whole day.

damienph · Post by **damienph** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:49 am

Well that's, um, different.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:14 am

Well, it now looks as good as it works. bwahahhahahaha.

pricedo · Post by **pricedo** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:29 am

Hobie wrote:http://mossberg.com/products/default.as ... n=products

What time yesterday do you think I was born?

Looks like somebody with an overactive imagination and good proficiency with Adobe Photoshop has been busy creating a work of FICTION.

jdad · Post by **jdad** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:37 am

I can see the Mossberg marketing and engineering department heads talking....."...we need to jump into the "Zombie" gun market before the trend is over. If Taurus can do it we can too!".....

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:38 am

pricedo wrote:
Hobie wrote:http://mossberg.com/products/default.as ... n=products

What time yesterday do you think I was born?

Looks like somebody with an overactive imagination and good proficiency with Adobe Photoshop has been busy creating a work of FICTION.

You should follow the link, it is in fact a MOSSBERG PRODUCT.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:45 am

pricedo wrote:
What time yesterday do you think I was born?

Looks like somebody with an overactive imagination and good proficiency with Adobe Photoshop has been busy creating a work of FICTION.

We Wish!

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/tag/ ... g-464-spx/

Old Ranger · Post by **Old Ranger** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:20 am

Well, I personally cannot stand anything on the AR platform. However, they sell like hotcakes and the aftermarket products from them is booming. I am traditional enough that I see a scope on a levergun I feel it looks out of place. But these are just ONE opinion of one oldman. What is pleasing to my eyes may look like old junk to another. That said, who am I to say that a uber tatical looking levergun is bad? Folks that like the AR style weapon might like this levergun platform with all the high tech gizmos. Would I own one? No. Will I loose sleep over it? No. Will I slam anyone that has one? No.....Everyone has something that another does not like. That is what make us all different.

Wade

damienph · Post by **damienph** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:30 am

pricedo wrote:
Hobie wrote:http://mossberg.com/products/default.as ... n=products

What time yesterday do you think I was born?

Looks like somebody with an overactive imagination and good proficiency with Adobe Photoshop has been busy creating a work of FICTION.

Sadly, truth REALLY IS stranger than fiction.

L_Kilkenny · Post by **L_Kilkenny** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:31 am

That thing is worse than the Stoeger Double Defence over/under and that's saying something. Don't expect I'll be seeing too many of either on the racks around here.

LK

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:39 am

That looks like something a crazy man would build out in his shop using scrap metal.

Twodot · Post by **Twodot** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:45 am

At first I thought it was a joke.
I still think it is.
..

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:53 am

I agree with Wade and Pitchy. That thing is an abomination. A birth defect that should have been aborted. A cross bred mutt that should have been drowned before it saw the light of day.
I can't say enough bad things about that ...... thing.

And the Mossberg people putting this thing out is a direct reflection on their firearms heritage and lack of tradition.

JUNQUE.

I'm not awake yet I must be having a nightmare.

Joe

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:55 am

Lever action Tactical Rifle????????

I have seen everything now!
Firefight laying tight to the ground---------------------------"wait" you bad guys let me tilt my gun sideways to work the cocking??

Pitiful just Pitiful.
That gun should be shot alright and I mean be shot the other way round.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:59 am

madman4570 wrote: Firefight laying tight to the ground---------------------------"wait" let me lay gun sideways to work that cocking??
Pitiful just Pitiful.

No no no. That's what the 10" bipod is for.

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:02 am

Tycer wrote:
madman4570 wrote: Firefight laying tight to the ground---------------------------"wait" let me lay gun sideways to work that cocking??
Pitiful just Pitiful.
No no no. That's what the 10" bipod is for.

MacEntyre · Post by **MacEntyre** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:20 am

Does it come in 32-20?

L_Kilkenny · Post by **L_Kilkenny** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:23 am

J Miller wrote:
And the Mossberg people putting this thing out is a direct reflection on their firearms heritage and lack of tradition.

Joe

You hate it, I hate it, so far everyone on this site hates it. But I'm not about to bash Mossberg for they're not in business to please your sense of firearm heritage and tradition. If they think they can make money off the thing more power to em. The sad part is that if you post this same thread over at a site like The Firing Line you'll still have folks that hate it like us but you'll also have a large tacticool crowd drooling over it. Are they morons? Yes and I hope Mossberg makes a lot of money off of them.

LK

williamranks · Post by **williamranks** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:57 am

That'll get me laughed out of a hunting camp.

I didn't know Mossberg and Mattel had merged.

Rimfire McNutjob · Post by **Rimfire McNutjob** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:13 am

Since I live in Florida, I will undoubtedly see one of those at the range before too long. I just hope they've fixed the functional problems with their 464. People that buy them and experience the issues will probably not try another lever rifle anytime soon. Hopefully OJ got his to a satisfactory point.

At least the Brazilians seem to be able to produce functioning copies of Winchester and Marlin models. As well as the Italians obviously ... in spite of their apparent difficulties maneuvering large ships. No offense to our resident Italian sage ... Sixgun.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:35 am

Nope, Hobie, I posted about that earlier this month. I just hadn't followed up on the heads up I got; at the time there wasn't a picture on their website! It is even uglier than I imagined. But... I've got a friend with an AR platform with every available option known to mankind... I might just have to get one and "bling" it up a little!!!! He thinks I'm nuts already with all my levers... but I consistently outshoot him... somehow, I can't convince him that it's the nut behind the trigger, not the toys hangin' off yer gun!

Nope, the next acquisition is a new (ok, rebuilt) M-1 Garand.

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:36 am

I'm glad to see the folks at Mossberg have not just been sitting on their hands; resting on their laurels, but are busy finding new and different ways to offend our sensibilities.. Would that this latest abomination were a joke, but alas, I know that it is not..

This might be the final nail in the coffin of a stodgy old firm, which has never given birth to an original idea in its life...

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:54 am

I consider myself most unfortunaate, for knowing a few individuals who will see this nightmare as a dreamcome true.. The 45 year old Boys, who deck themselves in full tactical gear, just to go coyote "hunting" out here in the Big Horn Basin.. They will view this "new" contraption as the finest invention since sliced bread (which I also despise..) and will take to it like a DUKW to water...

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:03 pm

Tristan · Post by **Tristan** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:05 pm

Alrighty, then.

I guess it's a piece designed for those trying to 'keep up with the tactical Jones' for places where they're not allowed the other black rifles.

SteveR · Post by **SteveR** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:19 pm

Hobie wrote:http://mossberg.com/products/default.as ... n=products

The stock looks like an amputation, with a prosthesis!! Yuk!!

Steve

Steelbanger · Post by **Steelbanger** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:29 pm

And the truly sad thing is that we will be seeing these at the range with their proud owners. Too bad the grand old 30-30 was chosen as the chambering. Probably the worst press the cartridge has ever had.

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:31 pm

In one "Swell Foop" Mossberg has negated every characteritic we find so appealing in Lever-Action Rifles..

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:36 pm

I can't help thinking " Cowboys and Aliens " JW will be turning in his grave.

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:44 pm

Mossberg must have been trying to save money by conducting their market research at a homeless shelter around the corner from the plant...

COSteve · Post by **COSteve** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:57 pm

Check out the site, they have more than one model in 30-30 and also a few in 22lr too!

Fugly comes to mind.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:07 pm

Hah...! Hmph...!

Ten rounds of .45 Colt beats six rounds of .30-30, if you're in a home-defense scenario...

I like mine better - http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=31062

Without light -

With light -

Marlin version -

50-yard group shot at midnight -

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:23 pm

I don't understand ----- and my head hurts a little to look at it --- i thought my .45 Trapper with a Ramline stock was bad enough .......... OY

- it looks like a crown jewel in comparison

They (Mossberg) make a model with a green laminated stock and some kind of hardkote finish (it looks like a stainless gun but is not) -- that i like and would add to my inventory if i ever saw one , its around 400-450 bucks or so -------- if the problems the early ones were having have been corrected -- OJ's story about his has me a bit leery though

I just wonder if the people that buy this even realize that they can probably get an AK-74 clone and a case or two of cheap blasting ammo for the same price as this rifle (maybe even an AR clone of some sort) --- then they would have what they really wanted -- oh well

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:34 pm

madman4570 wrote:Lever action Tactical Rifle????????
I have seen everything now!
Firefight laying tight to the ground---------------------------"wait" you bad guys let me tilt my gun sideways to work the cocking??
Pitiful just Pitiful.
That gun should be shot alright and I mean be shot the other way round.

Ain't that what you do to load a fresh clip in an AR?

I quite like it, despite being laughed out of camp I like it.

Nath.

bdhold · Post by **bdhold** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:36 pm

I hope that ad came from the Onion.

Leverdude · Post by **Leverdude** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:07 pm

If theyre gonna do this they should start with a BLR type thing so at least you can get 30 round mags for it.

rossim92 · Post by **rossim92** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:08 pm

What ya think John Wayne would have said?

jdad · Post by **jdad** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:45 pm

Hornady is producing 30-30 "Zombie" ammo that is a perfect match to the Mossberg "Zombie" levergun.

http://www.hornady.com/store/30-30-Win-160-gr-Z-MAX/

86er · Post by **86er** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:54 pm

Mossberg is trying to resurect the interest, dependence and demand for lever actions and the ol' thuty-thuty. The marketing people think "tacticool" will invoke new found interest in the time-tested design and well proven cartridge. The hope is that Generation Y will realize the usefulness and dependability of the levergun and versatility of the 30WCF. The next stage for the new owner would be a .22 for plinking and small game and a 30WCF in a more traditional format, or a 45-70 (Mossberg has tossed the idea around) for big game hunting. I'll bet for some consumers this platform will draw their attention and they will respond as Mossberg hopes they will by expanding their levergun tools and applications. I just hope they have all the bugs worked out. If it proves to be unreliable or easily put out of commission, just the opposite will occur. The conclusion will be a reinforcement of what they previously may have thought - that leverguns are outdated and inferior. While this gun is no for me because it doesn't suit my tastes or uses I think Mossberg should be commended for thinking outside the box and bringing a "retro" platform into the modern position to reach the new generation.

About 80 years after the heyday of the single shot rifle's initial popularity (primarily as buffalo guns but also big game hunting rifles) a lot of folks were laughing at Bill Ruger for bringing the hammer rifle into modern form. After the heckling subsided, lots of folks bought #1's and 3's and expanded into modern Sharps clones, Dakota's and a bunch of other single shot rifles.

iceman · Post by **iceman** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:03 pm

If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I would have to be blind to like it. their sales will tell what the market place thinks of it though.

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:29 pm

The engineer or what ever designed that abomination should have been knocked in the head when he was a pup and saved some good milk.
YES I am old and old fashioned enough to say what I think of stuff like this.

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:47 pm

You won't find one sitting in my closet or by my bed anytime soon, but to each his own i guess. I don't know that it really appeals to any single group. The "tacticool" guys probably won't like it cuz it's not semi-auto, and the traditional guys like us don't like it cuz it's, well, not traditional. I guess it may appeal to a certain few that just like guns, or that love the newest gadgets to come out.

Is it practical? Could be for those that like a lever for self defense. You can mount lights and all kinds of other stuff on the rails. Is it visually appealing? Let's just say it's the Nancy Pelosi of leverguns

bigbore442001 · Post by **bigbore442001** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:37 pm

It is interesting. I wonder if they'll chamber it in 44 magnum.

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:47 pm

Nath wrote:
madman4570 wrote:Lever action Tactical Rifle????????
I have seen everything now!
Firefight laying tight to the ground---------------------------"wait" you bad guys let me tilt my gun sideways to work the cocking??
Pitiful just Pitiful.
That gun should be shot alright and I mean be shot the other way round.
Ain't that what you do to load a fresh clip in an AR?

I quite like it, despite being laughed out of camp I like it.

Nath.

Yep, after I squeezed off 20rds without cocking anything,or 30rds or 40rds.
Holy smokes (we got a taken boys)

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:52 pm

86er wrote:...I think Mossberg should be commended for thinking outside the box and bringing a "retro" platform into the modern position to reach the new generation.
About 80 years after the heyday of the single shot rifle's initial popularity (primarily as buffalo guns but also big game hunting rifles) a lot of folks were laughing at Bill Ruger for bringing the hammer rifle into modern form. After the heckling subsided, lots of folks bought #1's and 3's and expanded into modern Sharps clones, Dakota's and a bunch of other single shot rifles.

Actually, Joe is not far off the mark here. My one wish is that they'd also brought out something for us traditionalists... something not offered currently. Like a .32-40 26" octagon barreled... or maybe a .38-55 in that same configuration... I have enough .30-30s... well... ok, maybe not... but...

mergus · Post by **mergus** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:57 pm

While I don't want one, they make me think of a couple of thoughts:

1) is that stock one of those recoil reducing stocks? I know some who do not enjot shooting a steel butt plate win '94.
2) hats off to Mossberg for thinking outside of the box
3) if only a very few buy them, then the few that do buy them will probably be sitting on a rare beast in years.

My hind site is always 20/20. Its my fore site that sucks.
Mergus

Hagler · Post by **Hagler** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:32 pm

...you all did see the .22LR version, right?:

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2012 ... more-11961

Shawn

.45colt · Post by **.45colt** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:41 pm

It would be one thing if they would have introduced and amazeing bulletproof rifle that was utterly reliable, that set the shooting world on it's ear.then I could see them comeing out with something like this. but they didn't even make a rifle that worked out of the box for alot of Shooters,the rifle itself is "less" than anything it tries to compete with. Sad in todays world.

pricedo · Post by **pricedo** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:52 pm

COSteve wrote:Check out the site, they have more than one model in 30-30 and also a few in 22lr too!

Fugly comes to mind.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder & I don't see any beauty in that gun.

What I see are alota wasted resources creating a ballistic eyesore that nobody is going to buy.

Some old hippy who is now working in the design department at Mossberg must be having LSD flashbacks.

Wish either Rossi or Mossberg would make a Winchester 1886 clone levergun in .444 Marlin, .450 Marlin, .45-70 Gvt, AND .475 Turnbull without going nutso on the stupid safety stuff (no tang safety or rebounding hammer or unsightly safety switch on the receiver).

That would be nice.