Follow-Up to the Church Shooting in Colorado Springs

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:56 am

http://theanswerorg.wordpress.com/

canonsix · Post by **canonsix** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:59 am

Thank you Sir, good read and a good deed by the pastor. Doug

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:59 pm

This particular piece strikes me from two directions.

One is profound thanks for the courage of a peacemaker.

The other is a wonder at the strength of the human spirit that always seems to rise up in adversity to build new hope and new dreams using the ruin of what has failed as a foundation.

Thanks for keeping us informed, Jim.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:08 pm

Simply amazing. I have no idea what I would do in any of their posistions.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:30 pm

Thank Jim for providin' that.

Jeeps · Post by **Jeeps** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:01 pm

Only through God can healing like that be done.

I look to those family members as examples.

I don't know if I could be that strong.

OJ · Post by OJ » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:05 pm

Yep - largely ignored by our local newspapers who all insisted Jeanne was officially a "security guard" when, in fact, she and a few others with concealed permits were unofficial volunteer security persons.

Both our local Gazette and the Denver Post lost no time printing an AP story listing the five gun dealers where the nut had legally purchased the guns. They listed the stores by name and address and the stories gave the vague impression those gun stores were, in essence, complicit accomplices of the killer for selling those guns to him.

First amendment OK, Second amendment NO.

Also brought up the rapid response of the police within minutes. Can't deny - when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:25 pm

Thanks Jim, I know this might be a popular opinion but I've come to think lately that some of the victims that are often over looked in these shootings are the parents of the shooter. It could happen to any of us as well. The father of the Ill. shooter lives about 20 miles from me. After the shooting the local news media tried to have a news breaking story and they put this poor man on TV standing in his driveway pleading to just be left alone. MY first thought was pity for the man. the second was rage at how uncaring the TV station was.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:43 pm

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

THAT should be made into a T-shirt.

Maybe above it, put

"When your life is in danger, don't dial '911' - use 1911 - and it isn't long distance..."
[insert photo of Colt 1911]

OJ · Post by OJ » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:21 am

AJMD429 wrote:
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
THAT should be made into a T-shirt.

Maybe above it, put

"When your life is in danger, don't dial '911' - use 1911 - and it isn't long distance..."
[insert photo of Colt 1911]

Like these ---

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:55 am

jim,
Thanks for posting this. There is healing for us all in it.

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:30 pm

Thank you.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:43 pm

The parents speak to power.

You never WANT to shoot somebody (well, that's not specifically true... you judt don't shoot the ones you WANT to...) You shoot somebody when you HAVE TO.

You should never feel guilt for doing what must be done. Sadness perhaps, but never guilt.

OJ · Post by OJ » Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:05 pm

Jeff Cooper has commented on that - he noted that there is no record of David feeling bad or depressed about killing Goliath.

He further commented we have lots of good people on earth and, the bad ones we can do without.