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Going to be spending 9 days this summer in the Caribbean.

One of those days will be fishing from a boat (details are still in the works).

The rest of the days I plan to be doing one of my most favorite things, ’snorkeling ‘ :D

I also plan to give underwater photography a try for the first time this year.
I purchased a waterproof case for my digital camera, so that’s covered.

My ‘snorkel hunting’ (as I call it) is primarily for Conch’s.

I normally take a mesh bag out with me.
As I find nice size Conch’s I put them in that till I have a few big ones then come back in.

At that point I search out one of the resort maintenance employees, pay him a
few American greenbacks to de-conch the Conch’s from the shells, clean, skin & chunk
the meat for me. (a very simple process really).

I then turn the meat over to one of the resort chefs who then either deep-fries
or makes something very tasty for me. 8)

This year I want to cut out the middleman and enjoy the process of cleaning & butchering
the Conch myself.

They normally use a hammer, screw driver and a butcher knife for the cleaning process.

I want to be able do this with one tool if possible.

I’m looking for a dive knife that has a hard Hammer like surface on the end of the handle
to be able to bang a hole into the shell big enough to slip the knife blade in to release the
vacuum so the Conch can be easily pulled & extracted for the large shell opening.
Then sharp enough to make easy work of butchering. (I do intend to take a wet stone along :idea: ).

Can any ya’ll possibly point me in the direction of a knife as described . (If it exists)

I’ve been seeing some nice dive knives but not with a hammer type of end on the handle.
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I have just such a knife that I have had for about 40 yrs and never used. I will post a photo next. You are welcome to take it with you if you'd like.
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Google dive knife with hammer, you will turn up dozens. The one I had years ago had one, and seemed like most of the others I found did too.
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Thanks guys & Joe I'm indeed interested in seeing that knife 8)
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Conch Soup.....A wonderful meal that I enjoyed many times in Panama.... 8)
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BlaineG wrote:Conch Soup.....A wonderful meal that I enjoyed many times in Panama.... 8)
Yes indeed, Conch soup is awsome :wink:
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I love conch fritters.

I have a 70's era U.S. Divers knife that has a hammer type but but no sheath. I don't know why they don't make them like that anymore.
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I DO NOT EAT THINGS WITHOUT HOOVES. WHATSA CONCH ?
I HAVE HEARD OF ' THE CONCH REPUBLIC ' NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.
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Terry Murbach wrote:I DO NOT EAT THINGS WITHOUT HOOVES. WHATSA CONCH ?
I HAVE HEARD OF ' THE CONCH REPUBLIC ' NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.

Isn't that those little round or big silver things they put on saddles and chaps. :lol: :arrow: I can see where that might make soup _if U put the chaps in the pot 2-
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Terry Murbach wrote:I DO NOT EAT THINGS WITHOUT HOOVES. WHATSA CONCH ?
I HAVE HEARD OF ' THE CONCH REPUBLIC ' NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.
What? You don't eat salt water snails, Sir? :twisted:
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Terry Murbach wrote:I DO NOT EAT THINGS WITHOUT HOOVES. WHATSA CONCH ?
I HAVE HEARD OF ' THE CONCH REPUBLIC ' NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.
A snail that lives in shells like these. :wink:


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casastahle wrote:
Terry Murbach wrote:I DO NOT EAT THINGS WITHOUT HOOVES. WHATSA CONCH ?
I HAVE HEARD OF ' THE CONCH REPUBLIC ' NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.
A snail that lives in shells like these. :wink:


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What shells? All I see is the most beautiful Bond girl ever. No woman ever made a bikini and a diver knife look so good.
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casastahle wrote:
Terry Murbach wrote:I DO NOT EAT THINGS WITHOUT HOOVES. WHATSA CONCH ?
I HAVE HEARD OF ' THE CONCH REPUBLIC ' NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.
A snail that lives in shells like these. :wink:


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I would snack on those.
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I bought one identical to this Wenoka in St. Thomas about 30 years ago. I Never go diving/ snorkeling without it.
I've used it a ton of times for various things but the one time it really saved my butt was a dive in a quarry outside of Cleveland.
I got hung up in a mess of abandoned fishing line and couldn't untangle my tank/regulator. Out came the knife and was
loose a few minutes later. Doesn't sound like a big deal but when your down 40' and it's time to start working your way back up it can be a little unnerving.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenoka-Diving-Y ... 4d0c9142d8

This one also has the same issue I had with my sheath. I replaced it with a generic one with Velcro straps.
The knives themselves are as tough as they get.

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pwl44m wrote:
Terry Murbach wrote:I DO NOT EAT THINGS WITHOUT HOOVES. WHATSA CONCH ?
I HAVE HEARD OF ' THE CONCH REPUBLIC ' NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT.

Isn't that those little round or big silver things they put on saddles and chaps. :lol: :arrow: I can see where that might make soup _if U put the chaps in the pot 2-
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Mike, those are nice conches. You should look for some of those in the Caribbean. If you do, I trust you will take some pictures. :D
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Oysters are a little rough :( Can't eat them slimy buggas.....
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Old Savage wrote:Mike, those are nice conches. You should look for some of those in the Caribbean. If you do, I trust you will take some pictures. :D
O ya, lots of those lovely beach-conches laying around on the sand as well.
They’re under the protected ‘look no touch’ policy. :wink:
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A few years ago Aqualung made a limited run of these and I bought one for those days when I go diving with one of my double hose regs. However, while the originals were discontinued in the 80's, you can still find them on e-bay pretty much any day for $10 or so. As long as the sheath is in good shape, you can get a new rubber retainer for it at vintagedoublehose.com.

This one is currently listed on e-bay.

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The original function of the flat hammery bit on the end of the knife was to bang on your tank to get someone's attention. In the pre-BC, or horsecollar BC days, it worked pretty well. Now, with BCs and in particular back inflate wings and DIR style wings, banging on the tanks with a knife is not a great idea due to the proximity to the wing.

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Now, once you get one, you need to get one of these:

This was a 1958 US Divers DA Aquamaster that I had re-chromed, then I updated it with a Phoenix Royal Aquamaster (PRAM) first stage (which is balanced, using Titan parts, and has high and low pressure ports for an inflator, octo and SPG), an HPR second stage (an easier to adjust and find parts for improvement over the original), a mushroom valve exhaust valve (to replace the harder exhaling duckbill exhaust valve), new silicone diaphragm, new silicone mouthpiece valves in new higher flow wagon wheels, new silicone mouth piece, new silicone hoses, and custom serial numbered PRAM labels.

The end end result was a 1958/2009 double hose reg that breathes much better than it did when it was new, and on par with any modern single hose regulator.

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We're way off course anyhow so, try Oysters cooked over a campfire -xclnt with a little tobascco - I had to try one RAW just to say I did "I Did", no mas.
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Model 52B wrote:A few years ago Aqualung made a limited run of these and I bought one for those days when I go diving with one of my double hose regs. However, while the originals were discontinued in the 80's, you can still find them on e-bay pretty much any day for $10 or so. As long as the sheath is in good shape, you can get a new rubber retainer for it at vintagedoublehose.com.

This one is currently listed on e-bay.

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The original function of the flat hammery bit on the end of the knife was to bang on your tank to get someone's attention. In the pre-BC, or horsecollar BC days, it worked pretty well. Now, with BCs and in particular back inflate wings and DIR style wings, banging on the tanks with a knife is not a great idea due to the proximity to the wing.
That knife would actually be about perfect for what I'm looking to do with it.
those pillion's would be perfect for safely banging a hole into the shell.
What type of straps would be used to secure it to the leg?
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Hmm, the inch markings made me remember the Abalone tool that Spyderco made for a short time. It has a folding blade that folds into what is essentially a pry bar. The thing is marked in inches so you could make sure it was legal before you tried to pry it loose. It would certainly break a conch shell, but the sheepsfoot serrated blade isn't ideal for butchering.
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Don't be a sissy, eat the clams raw :D
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When I was in Bahamas on a cruise we went snorkeling and I kept wishing I had a knife, not sure if those are allowed on cruise ship.
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sore shoulder wrote:When I was in Bahamas on a cruise we went snorkeling and I kept wishing I had a knife, not sure if those are allowed on cruise ship.

Reminds me, that’s something I need to check into.
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After cruising through a few dive forums, apparently this style of knife has become
popular amongst the diving circles.

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casastahle wrote: What type of straps would be used to secure it to the leg?
A pair of standard rubber knife straps from any local diver shop or on-line retailer will work fine.
jeepnik wrote:Hmm, the inch markings made me remember the Abalone tool that Spyderco made for a short time. It has a folding blade that folds into what is essentially a pry bar. The thing is marked in inches so you could make sure it was legal before you tried to pry it loose. It would certainly break a conch shell, but the sheepsfoot serrated blade isn't ideal for butchering.
I had a Healthways ab iron I bought new in 1979 when I started diving. It had inch marks along with a blunt tip that was rounded up slightly to pry them off. It had a sharp edge on one side and a serrated edge on the other, but using 300 series stainless it was not much of a knife in terms of holding an edge, but it was very corrosion resistant and a great pry bar.
casastahle wrote:After cruising through a few dive forums, apparently this style of knife has become
popular amongst the diving circles.

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That design was sold by Parkway in the late 1990s or so and it's hung on, but while it's been sold under various brands, it has never really been all that popular. I owned one for awhile and the problem is that it's less than optimum as a knife, but not all that great as a pair of scissors. You can easily cut a penny with inexpensive EMT shears, but trying the same thing with that will bend the blades out of alignment.
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Thanks, good info. Model 52B
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This knife says on it US Divers and "Vulcan". The handguard says Made in Japan and US Patent (w/ a #). The back "hammer" is 3/8" thick. The handle is bakelite type plastic/hard rubber. There is a little hole in the top tang extension. I was told it has 3 uses 1) insert a long screw with nut and create a tool to open shellfish and clams; 2) attach a swivel and line to connect it to you; 3) attach a snap and line with flotation ball. The case is a metal top with plastic bottom. There are two friction clamps inside the metal part of the case. The metal clip goes over your strap and you use a snap to keep it secure. My friend that gave it to me painted the design and initials. I got it nearly 40 years ago and it was supposed to be circa 1970. I've never used it for anything and it has not been removed from that case for 39 years until today when I took the photo. You are welcome to give it a workout.

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Thanks so much Joe for the awesome offer. Your generosity is beyond compare.

About 20 min. ago I made this ebay purchase. 8)

Thanks all for the valued input into this thread.

Ya’ll are a great top shelf crowd to hang with. :D



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OH NO !!! Cass, Ur the one that bought it. I'm sorry, I just sold it and it is a piece of Carp, it has more than a little rust and the blade is about to fall out. :lol: :lol: Just kidding , congrats , looks like it will do Ya good and Yagot 2 knives to boot.
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pwl44m wrote:OH NO !!! Cass, Ur the one that bought it. I'm sorry, I just sold it and it is a piece of Carp, it has more than a little rust and the blade is about to fall out. :lol: :lol: Just kidding , congrats , looks like it will do Ya good and Yagot 2 knives to boot.
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:lol: Thanks :lol:

& the case even has leg straps, it was hard to find one with those. :)
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All this talk about knives got me looking at some websites I shouldn't look at ---- found the little gem in the link below and it is on its way -- will post a pic or 2 when it gets here


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Back in 1985 right after I completed my PADI Scuba certification my dad bought me for a congratulatory gift a new U.S. Navy Mark 3 knife with sheath.

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casastahle wrote:Thanks so much Joe for the awesome offer. Your generosity is beyond compare.

About 20 min. ago I made this ebay purchase. 8)

Thanks all for the valued input into this thread.

Ya’ll are a great top shelf crowd to hang with. :D



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Dacor-D ... t_73wt_917
Nice score! Did you find out about taking it on board the cruise ship?
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Don't mess with any cone snails...They're a predatory hunter and kill prey with a harpoon like stinger that contains neuro toxins... they don't take kindly to being scraped on with knives or hammered on....if person gets speared by one they painfully die in seconds....
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sore shoulder wrote:
casastahle wrote:Thanks so much Joe for the awesome offer. Your generosity is beyond compare.

About 20 min. ago I made this ebay purchase. 8)

Thanks all for the valued input into this thread.

Ya’ll are a great top shelf crowd to hang with. :D



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Dacor-D ... t_73wt_917
Nice score! Did you find out about taking it on board the cruise ship?
We're not going on a cruise ship.
We have straight through round trip flights.
Staying 9 day's at an all inclusive resort.
From what I understand as long as the dive knife stays
in checked bagage it's all good.
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