OT - Dean Martin and John Wayne

1988rrc · Post by **1988rrc** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AucxqtpCZL0

i just got this, it may of been around already, if so tell me.
you may have to cut and paste.

ScottT · Post by **ScottT** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:18 pm

Thanks for posting that. That is how I like to remember him.

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:27 pm

Pretty cool.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:35 pm

I love that guy......
He was the Great American

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:02 pm

I wonder when we'll get our next John Wayne. We could use him.

Papa · Post by **Papa** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:51 pm

I thought Tom Selleck was our next John Wayne, especially after Monty Walsh, then he wound up on Vegas???? Ah well, even John Wayne played some pretty good non-western parts...

There's always Robert Duval

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:05 pm

I have to admit, there was a time when I didn't appreciate John Wayne or the things that he espoused................thankfully, I got my head out of my butt & do now. God Bless him & the America he stood up for! jd45

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:28 pm

jd45 wrote:I have to admit, there was a time when I didn't appreciate John Wayne or the things that he espoused................thankfully, I got my head out of my butt & do now. God Bless him & the America he stood up for! jd45

Wow jd45 - your head had to be pretty, er, deep, to have not appreciated the Duke! Glad you got things set... right!

Papa · Post by **Papa** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:30 pm

I've got 92 of his movies so far, and two walls of portraits and even a life size stand up cardboard display as well as other collectable nick nacks.

"Now just why the hell do I have to press one for english?"

505stevec · Post by **505stevec** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:56 pm

I was amazed to find out there were men out there who had never seen a John Wayne movie but I met a cop friend years ago that grew up with Roy Rogers but no Duke. Wow, he missed alot of good strong male role modeling.

stormspotter · Post by **stormspotter** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:14 pm

I think one of his best lines ever came from "The Alamo", namely the one below. Too bad there wasn't enough room to post it in its entirety.

Leonard

Papa · Post by **Papa** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:22 pm

That was a good one for sure!!

piller · Post by **piller** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:18 am

When the U.S. was in need of suppport, The Duke was always there. Once when he and Brigadier Jimmy Stewart were going to some awards ceremony, they passed some war protestors flying a North Vietnamese flag. Jimmy Stewart's son had recently died serving the U.S. in Vietnam, and The Duke walked over to the protestors and started talking to them. The flag came down and the protest broke up. We need more men like The Duke and most of his male Co-Stars.

gundownunder · Post by **gundownunder** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:30 am

The world's changing, and the human race is in decline.
Its unfortunate, but we'll never see the likes of him again.

MikeS. · Post by **MikeS.** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:27 am

I really miss him too, what a Mensch!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:30 am

Kinda like jd45, there was a time I didn't appreciate "the Duke". Mostly I just didn't care for the historical inaccuracies in his westerns (firearms sometimes being the least of those), nor did I truly understand politics.
Most folks, (politicians excepted) have some value, and in time will reveal their character. They are also, for the most part, multi-faceted; sometimes in seemingly contradictory ways. That doesn't make them "bad", just human. Subsequently, I have read and studied some of JW's history and conflicting issues during WWII.

Character, and by that I mean strength of character, is sometimes shown by an inherent ability to do the right thing at the right time; and, then at other times, possibly with far more difficulty, it is to overcome making the wrong choice and working to correct that for the rest of your life.

Two of JW's latest movies really changed my opinion of him as a public figure: The Cowboys and The Shootist. There is also the possibility that I'd changed and was better able to appreciate him.

Now, if only some of our far-leftwing socialist politicians could do that![/i]

Marlin .35 · Post by **Marlin .35** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:00 pm

Thank you very much for posting that. Two of my favorite hero's, and I do mean HERO'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Art

JohnnyReb · Post by **JohnnyReb** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:23 pm

Thank you for posting.......And I am sooooo... relieved! Almost did not open it!

With so many rumors coming up about stars and people coming out of the closet.....
It would have broken my heart... Dean and the Duke!

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:44 pm

I like John Wayne's movies, and I certainly appreciate much of the patriotic sentiment that he gave voice to.

It's important to remember however, that he was a actor, acting.

JohnnyReb · Post by **JohnnyReb** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:56 pm

FW. I agree that actors are over-rated. They are just pretending to do some things other people ACTUALLY do.

However, John Wayne was alittle different. Many critics say he was a terrible actor... He was the John Wayne version of what ever character he was playing. If JW had been a Cowboy then he would have been Rooster Cogburn!

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:15 pm

I knew someone who knew John Wayne pretty well. He was human, and had his mistakes and shortcomings, but he loved America fiercely and thoroughly, and was never bashful about it. He loved the American military men and women. He made the movie "Green Berets" - a very pro-Viet nam and pro-military movie when the rest of hollywierd was tripping over themselves to denounce both. Whatever personal shortcomings he had during WWII to spent the rest of his life trying to make up.

If you look at the roles John Wayne played as an actor, when he strayed from his cowboy/fighting man roles, his movies stunk. As my friend said, it was because when he played himself, he shone. He was an American cowboy - just born too late (like many of us).

Rebel1972 · Post by **Rebel1972** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:06 am

The past couple of days i have been looking at the Internet Movie Data Base biography and trivia for several of the old stars .I did not realize how political a lot of them were .Henry Fonda, Kirk Douglas Gregory Peck and Burt Landcaster were very liberal Democrats ,while John Wayne, Ward Bond James Arness,Walter Brennan and James Stewart were very right wing Republicans.Gary Cooper was not hardly as far right as the Duke.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:04 pm

"I'm proud to know you Duke." - Dean Martin.

I think that about sums it up.

Joe

Killer Kanuck · Post by **Killer Kanuck** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:17 pm

Papa wrote:I've got 92 of his movies so far, and two walls of portraits and even a life size stand up cardboard display as well as other collectable nick nacks.

Yea, but do you have this?

The work "Icon" doesn't suit too many people, but The Duke is one of them.