it's me again, do not read this one

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:00 pm

technology, sometimes I don't hate it

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wi ... ,57.80,831

it's alive

click around, you can drag the map to anywhere, the data flows and follows.

a screen shot makes a good background

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:02 pm

That's pretty cool. Have you seen this one... http://hint.fm/wind/

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:19 pm

NOAA can put all that together (exploring this site can take all day)

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full.php

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:23 pm

Grizz,

That's pretty neat. Surprisingly it works with my dial up.

Joe

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:09 pm

I cannot believe you peeked !

thanks for the links.

if you click the 'earth' button you get to customizations where you can change the chart projections and add a heat map.

it's a time bandit

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:29 pm

Grizz wrote:I cannot believe you peeked !

thanks for the links.

if you click the 'earth' button you get to customizations where you can change the chart projections and add a heat map.

it's a time bandit

The "scientists" have tera-bytes (did I say that right?) of power, and, still they can't get tomorrow's weather right

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:30 pm

BlaineG wrote:The "scientists" have tera-bytes (did I say that right?) of power, and, still they can't get tomorrow's weather right

Oh I dunno. I wouldn't bet against them. What's your prediction for tomorrow's weather?

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:31 pm

BrentD wrote:
BlaineG wrote:The "scientists" have tera-bytes (did I say that right?) of power, and, still they can't get tomorrow's weather right
Oh I dunno. I wouldn't bet against them. What's your prediction for tomorrow's weather?

The sun will rise. There will be weather. The sun will set.

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:33 pm

BlaineG wrote:
BrentD wrote:
BlaineG wrote:The "scientists" have tera-bytes (did I say that right?) of power, and, still they can't get tomorrow's weather right
Oh I dunno. I wouldn't bet against them. What's your prediction for tomorrow's weather?
The sun will rise. There will be weather. The sun will set.

sunrise and set, is not weather, just planetary physics in action.

I'm pretty amazed at how well weather predictions have gotten in the last decade or so and the last 3 yrs in particular.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:37 pm

BlaineG wrote:
BrentD wrote:
BlaineG wrote:The "scientists" have tera-bytes (did I say that right?) of power, and, still they can't get tomorrow's weather right
Oh I dunno. I wouldn't bet against them. What's your prediction for tomorrow's weather?
The sun will rise. There will be weather. The sun will set.

more

there will be more weather tommorrow

what makes me laugh is the absolute certainly the pinheads have that they can tell to a tenth of a degree what the temperature will be in 2025 if we don't stop using fuel and start living in caves. they are among the most deluded humans on the planet, but that jives with, well, you know.

right?
Grizz

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:39 pm

Brent,

Reading is fundamental.

&

I was thinking the opposite....around there they are lucky to be accurate more than a couple days out....If the dumbchits would look out the window instead of the computer screen, it might get better

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:42 pm

Brent,

I lived on the ocean for 28 years for over 200 days per year. I can tell you with absolute certainty that the wx predictors can sometimes miss hurricane force winds, and sound incredulous when you call them with position reports.

wx predictions have gotten better, but they can still miss major storms that people at sea are trying to survive, even now.

the problem is that they think the wx has to obey their computer models.

really.

Grizz

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:44 pm

I don't think either of you understand climatology/meteorology very well.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:45 pm

BrentD wrote:I don't think either of you understand climatology/meteorology very well.

Bless your heart

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:46 pm

Thanks.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:49 pm

BrentD wrote:Thanks.

Welcome...I didn't want to rain on your parade

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:49 pm

BlaineG wrote:
BrentD wrote:Thanks.
Welcome...I didn't want to rain on your parade

Fear not. Your weather predicting ability is not nearly that good. Trust me.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:51 pm

BrentD wrote:
BlaineG wrote:
BrentD wrote:Thanks.
Welcome...I didn't want to rain on your parade
Fear not. Your weather predicting ability is not nearly that good. Trust me.

Grey skies are gonna clear up, so, put on a happy face....Jerk

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:52 pm

BlaineG wrote:
BrentD wrote:
BlaineG wrote:
BrentD wrote:Thanks.
Welcome...I didn't want to rain on your parade
Fear not. Your weather predicting ability is not nearly that good. Trust me.
Grey skies are gonna clear up, so, put on a happy face....Jerk

I'm very happy - and I don't even have to call anyone names to make me happy. You have a good day and hope for sunshine. You need it.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:55 pm

BrentD wrote:I don't think either of you understand climatology/meteorology very well.

better explain it so I can find out what I was missing all those years at sea...

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:58 pm

Grizz wrote:
BrentD wrote:I don't think either of you understand climatology/meteorology very well.
better explain it so I can find out what I was missing all those years at sea...

Naw, I'll leave that for you to study up on your own. Now that you are land based, you can catch up more easily.

Since you are an exseaman, you can check out your old employer's website for starters http://www.usno.navy.mil/FNMOC

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:00 pm

Funny.

My old employer is me. Was self-employed most of my life and I still employ myself whenever possible.

But if you can't explain it I certainly won't hold it against it. None of the meteorologists I called could explain it either.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:20 pm

BrentD wrote:I'm pretty amazed at how well weather predictions have gotten in the last decade or so and the last 3 yrs in particular.

Same here. We get five days warning there will be 7-8" of snow, and if it is only 6", we think they goofed...

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:42 pm

That wasn't a name, Brent,

...Just a character reference for ya

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:11 pm

Sweet Blaine. You're a great guy, I'm sure. I'm also sure you are absolutely the smartest guy around and could certainly set the world straight on weather prediction science without any effort on your part at all.

But I wonder how well you do with math. I have this old equation that I like to drag out for internet experts.
Ignorance*Arrogance = Stupidity.

Maybe you will see something you recognize in all of that, being the great, natural-born scientist you are.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:22 pm

BrentD wrote:Sweet Blaine. You're a great guy, I'm sure. I'm also sure you are absolutely the smartest guy around and could certainly set the world straight on weather prediction science without any effort on your part at all.

But I wonder how well you do with math. I have this old equation that I like to drag out for internet experts.
Ignorance*Arrogance = Stupidity.

Maybe you will see something you recognize in all of that, being the great, natural-born scientist you are.

Math? Nope, your equation does not add up. Get someone to cosine a loan, and buy some book on humor.....

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:24 pm

I figured you were probably challenged by multiplication. But heck, just look in the mirror and you will see the hidden answer.

I'll buy you the humor book - you certainly need it. Don't worry, I won't have to take out a loan.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:38 pm

[img]Don't%20worry,%20I%20won't%20have%20to%20take%20out%20a%20loan.[/img]

You're gonna need more than one book.....Start with Norman Vincent Peal....

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:39 pm

Whatever you say Blaine, after all, you are the internet expert here. Just give an address to mail them to you.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:48 pm

BrentD wrote:Whatever you say Blaine, after all, you are the internet expert here. Just give an address to mail them to you.

Forget the book. Clearly, if you continue to regale us with your luminosity nothing else would be necessary.
(I don't know weather or not you understood a couple of those words

)

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:49 pm

Well, just let me know when you want your humor training books. In the meantime, smile and check your forecast for sunshine. You need all you can get.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:49 pm

BrentD wrote:Well, just let me know when you want your humor training books. In the meantime, smile and check your forecast for sunshine. You need all you can get.

Bwaahahahaha.....You used that one already...you lose.

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:51 pm

Truth bears repeating. You apparently don't pick things up on your first attempt.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:25 pm

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:26 pm

Me too

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:41 pm

BlaineG wrote:Brent, Reading is fundamental.

&

I was thinking the opposite....around there they are lucky to be accurate more than a couple days out....If the dumbchits would look out the window instead of the computer screen, it might get better

remember the superbowl. you know they predicted a blizzard, freeze, high winds, dead birds falling frozen, wait one on that while I fact check.. . . . . scratch that last one, different storm.

where was I ? Oh yeah, they were so proud of their predictions that the nfl, I mean the NFL was going to cancel and reschedule the game. it was only a couple of months ago, anyone remember this?

and then, after all that, it was something like a balmy 40-something degrees F, no snow, no wind, in fact, NO NOTHING that was forecast happened during the superbowl.

what was that math again?

Grizz

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:43 pm

Grizz, the meterologists say it will be cooler and sunny tomorrow.

What, in your inestimable expertise, do you think the weather will be tomorrow?

You and Blaine should get together and save the planet with your joint brilliance. Amazing that the world manages w/o you two a the helm.

bdhold · Post by **bdhold** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:03 am

there are so many great hydrology tools available on the internet.
He's a post I made on the fiberglass flyrodders forum 8 years ago showing the weather tools I use to plan a fishing trip

bulldog1935 wrote:I have always said I would rather live in the TX hill country than anywhere. Why? We fish 12 mo/year, and I'm never more than 90 minutes from great fishing, no matter the weather.

we had planned a trip to fish the Sabinal below Utopia this morning.
It rained like the dickens here last night.
So I got up this morning.

First thing, checked Nexrad
There was a huge mass of rain, it was all moving east and looked like it was just skirting our fishing hole.

Next, I checked the 24-hour historic rainfall
Sure enough, it rained like the dickens, but just about all of it was east and north of our fishing hole and its drainage.

Last, I checked USGS , but especially, USGS for our fishing hole
There was a rise in the river, less than 20%, and it was already falling.
Let's do it.

Driving west we were facing the blackest of black skies. Um, well, we got to stop at Haby's Bakery and it will be a nice drive...

The river was gin clear.
Really.

Dad did great at this tailout and eddy.

He broke off one that he said was probably 18"

Mine took, though.

I fished the one-piece 2071 that Andy made for me. I hadn't fished it in a year. WHY!!??!!! This rod is FANTASTIC.

yeah, we got a little rain, but we had a blast.

Here's a great site from the San Gabriel Flyfishers - the pins have links to USGS and local fishing reports
http://www.sgflyfishers.com/GoogleMapWithMarkers.html

of course right now, we're in such a bad drought that much of this good information won't apply until we get the next wet year.

SteveR · Post by **SteveR** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:12 am

BrentD wrote:Grizz, the meterologists say it will be cooler and sunny tomorrow.

What, in your inestimable expertise, do you think the weather will be tomorrow?

You and Blaine should get together and save the planet with your joint brilliance. Amazing that the world manages w/o you two a the helm.

What is your problem? Grizz posted a site, Blaine commented, nobody asked you for your opinion, so why you giving Grizz and Blaine stuff?

Steve

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:15 am

BrentD wrote:Grizz, the meterologists say it will be cooler and sunny tomorrow.

What, in your inestimable expertise, do you think the weather will be tomorrow?

You and Blaine should get together and save the planet with your joint brilliance. Amazing that the world manages w/o you two a the helm.

remember the superbowl. you know they predicted a blizzard, freeze, high winds, dead birds falling frozen, wait one on that while I fact check.. . . . . scratch that last one, different storm.

where was I ? Oh yeah, they were so proud of their predictions that the nfl, I mean the NFL was going to cancel and reschedule the game. it was only a couple of months ago, anyone remember this?

and then, after all that, it was something like a balmy 40-something degrees F, no snow, no wind, in fact, NO NOTHING that was forecast happened during the superbowl.

what was that math again?

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:16 am

BrentD wrote:Truth bears repeating. You apparently don't pick things up on your first attempt.

remember the superbowl. you know they predicted a blizzard, freeze, high winds, dead birds falling frozen, wait one on that while I fact check.. . . . . scratch that last one, different storm.

where was I ? Oh yeah, they were so proud of their predictions that the nfl, I mean the NFL was going to cancel and reschedule the game. it was only a couple of months ago, anyone remember this?

and then, after all that, it was something like a balmy 40-something degrees F, no snow, no wind, in fact, NO NOTHING that was forecast happened during the superbowl.

what was that math again?

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:21 am

SteveR wrote:
BrentD wrote:Grizz, the meterologists say it will be cooler and sunny tomorrow.

What, in your inestimable expertise, do you think the weather will be tomorrow?

You and Blaine should get together and save the planet with your joint brilliance. Amazing that the world manages w/o you two a the helm.
What is your problem? Grizz posted a site, Blaine commented, nobody asked you for your opinion, so why you giving Grizz and Blaine stuff?

Steve

Why are they giving me "stuff"? And, of course, nobody asked you for your opinion either.

Frankly, I get tired of arrogant, ignorant comments that dismiss entire fields of professionals as "jerks" (to borrow from blaine) and worse. If you are entitled to your opinion, am I not entitled to mine?

SteveR · Post by **SteveR** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:35 am

BrentD wrote:
SteveR wrote:
BrentD wrote:Grizz, the meterologists say it will be cooler and sunny tomorrow.

What, in your inestimable expertise, do you think the weather will be tomorrow?

You and Blaine should get together and save the planet with your joint brilliance. Amazing that the world manages w/o you two a the helm.
What is your problem? Grizz posted a site, Blaine commented, nobody asked you for your opinion, so why you giving Grizz and Blaine stuff?

Steve

Why are they giving me "stuff"? And, of course, nobody asked you for your opinion either.

Frankly, I get tired of arrogant, ignorant comments that dismiss entire fields of professionals as "jerks" (to borrow from blaine) and worse. If you are entitled to your opinion, am I not entitled to mine?

Well to be frank with you, are you a meteorologist? If so, then you should say up front. By not doing so, you come across as a "jerk".
If you are not a meteorologist, then you are a real "jerk", I completely understand the gist of the conversation, predicting the weather is not always reliable or correct, so I don't give the weather forecasters much credence either.
You put your opinion out there first, so yes it's fair game for me to opine.

Steve

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:00 am

BrentD wrote:
SteveR wrote:
BrentD wrote:Grizz, the meterologists say it will be cooler and sunny tomorrow.

What, in your inestimable expertise, do you think the weather will be tomorrow?

You and Blaine should get together and save the planet with your joint brilliance. Amazing that the world manages w/o you two a the helm.
What is your problem? Grizz posted a site, Blaine commented, nobody asked you for your opinion, so why you giving Grizz and Blaine stuff?

Steve

Why are they giving me "stuff"? And, of course, nobody asked you for your opinion either.

Frankly, I get tired of arrogant, ignorant comments that dismiss entire fields of professionals as "jerks" (to borrow from blaine) and worse. If you are entitled to your opinion, am I not entitled to mine?

remember the superbowl. you know they predicted a blizzard, freeze, high winds, dead birds falling frozen, wait one on that while I fact check.. . . . . scratch that last one, different storm.

where was I ? Oh yeah, they were so proud of their predictions that the nfl, I mean the NFL was going to cancel and reschedule the game. it was only a couple of months ago, anyone remember this?

and then, after all that, it was something like a balmy 40-something degrees F, no snow, no wind, in fact, NO NOTHING that was forecast happened during the superbowl.

what was that math again?

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:09 pm

Hey, Grizz....It was supposed to rain today....the sun is shining...imagine that

Do you think Bent would understand Convergence Zones? Nah, I didn't think so

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:13 pm

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

(Emphasis added).

I'd also add that we shouldn't be too thin-skinned. Whenever I listen to the weather predictions I always hear, stated or not, "...we anticipate or predict...", and while it MAY be more scientific than an Ouija board or crystal ball, it's still a guess, pure and simple. A guess predicated on many "ifs" cannot be construed as a certainty.

Suggested reading: http://freakonomics.com/2008/04/21/how- ... forecasts/

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:32 pm

Griff wrote:
Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
(Emphasis added).

I'd also add that we shouldn't be too thin-skinned. Whenever I listen to the weather predictions I always hear, stated or not, "...we anticipate or predict...", and while it MAY be more scientific than an Ouija board or crystal ball, it's still a guess, pure and simple. A guess predicated on many "ifs" cannot be construed as a certainty.

Suggested reading: http://freakonomics.com/2008/04/21/how- ... forecasts/

I strive for reciprocity. Bent flunked 6h Grade How To Win Debates 101....

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:19 pm

BlaineG wrote:
Griff wrote:
Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
(Emphasis added).

I'd also add that we shouldn't be too thin-skinned. Whenever I listen to the weather predictions I always hear, stated or not, "...we anticipate or predict...", and while it MAY be more scientific than an Ouija board or crystal ball, it's still a guess, pure and simple. A guess predicated on many "ifs" cannot be construed as a certainty.

Suggested reading: http://freakonomics.com/2008/04/21/how- ... forecasts/
I strive for reciprocity. Bent flunked 6h Grade How To Win Debates 101....

And you flunked Creative Name Calling Class Blaine.

I'm still waiting to hear all of your oh-so-superior meterological predictions for the coming year. So far, we have "there will be weather". Yep, you're a rocket scientist.

You appear to have flunked the forum rules too. But what the heck. You are above all of that - right?

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:25 pm

You appear to have flunked the forum rules too. But what the heck. You are above all of that - right?

We can add Reading Comprehension to your long (and rapidly expanding) list of "Needs Work On"

BrentD · Post by **BrentD** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:26 pm

BlaineG wrote:
You appear to have flunked the forum rules too. But what the heck. You are above all of that - right?
We can add Reading Comprehension to your long (and rapidly expanding) list of "Needs Work On"

How about you, Mr. Perfect? What is your problem anyway? You seem to have a chip on your shoulder for anyone and everyone out there...