Hyphenated cartridges of the old west

[J Miller]

I have a request from my brother for a list of hyphenated cartridges of the past.

So I figured I'd ask here as my COTW is AWOL since the move.

How about we do it this way:

Winchester 1873:
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1876:
45-60
45-75
50-90

Winchester 1886:
45-70
45-90
50-110

Winchester 1892:
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1894:
30 W.C. F. ~ 30-30
32-40
38-55

Winchester 1895
?


Winchester single shots
?

As for the Marlins and others I really do not know enough to quote anything.

So can you guys fill in the blanks for me so I can make my brother happy?

Joe

[Malamute]

Joe, your Winchester book should have tons of info.

The 76 was 50-95. It also had a 40 cal round 40-60 or 65.

86 had 38-56, 40-65, 40-82, 50-100-450, and a couple others I'm forgetting. 40-72 maybe?

92, 25-20

94, 25-35

95, 40-72, another 40-something, 30 govt-03, 30 govt-06, 30-40 (aka 30 US and 30 Army)

[RIHMFIRE]

I have a request from my brother for a list of hyphenated cartridges of the past.

So I figured I'd ask here as my COTW is AWOL since the move.

How about we do it this way:

Winchester 1873:
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1876:
40-60
45-60
45-75
50-90 50-95

Winchester 1886:
45-70
45-90
50-110

.40-82 W.C.F. seen a few of these$$$$$
.40-65 W.C.F.
.38-56 W.C.F.
I have never seen these two calibers except in mags
.38-70 W.C.F.
.40-70 W.C.F.

Winchester 1892:
25 W.C.F. - 25-20
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1894:
30 W.C. F. ~ 30-30
32-40
38-55

Winchester 1895
30-40 craig
30-06


Winchester single shots
40-70, 40-90, 45-70, 45-90, 45-120, 50-110
30/40 Krag, 30 W.C.F.,
32 WCF, 38 W.C.F. and 44 W.C.F.

As for the Marlins and others I really do not know enough to quote anything.

So can you guys fill in the blanks for me so I can make my brother happy?

Joe

wonder if there are some more...not sure

[Pete44ru]

I have a request from my brother for a list of hyphenated cartridges of the past.

So I figured I'd ask here as my COTW is AWOL since the move.

How about we do it this way:

Winchester 1873:
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1876:
.40-60WCF
45-60
45-75
50-90


Winchester 1886:
.38-56WCF
.38-70WCF
.40-65WCF
.40-70WCF
.40-82WCF
45-70
45-90
50-110
.50-100-450



Winchester 1892:
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1894:
.25-35WCF
30 W.C. F. ~ 30-30
32-40
38-55



Winchester 1895
?

.30/40 Krag
.30-03
.30-06
.40-72WCF


Winchester single shots - M-1885
?

.32-20WCF
.38-40WCF
.44-40WCF
.30-30WCF
.30-40 Krag
.40-70
.40-90
.45-70
.45-90
.45-120
.50-110
+ many various black powder cartridges ( Sharps & Ballard, etc ).

As for the Marlins and others I really do not know enough to quote anything.

MARLIN 1881
.32-40WCF
.38-55 Ballard
.40-60WCF
.40-85 Marlin
.45-70GOV'T

MARLIN 1888/89/1894/94
.25-20WCF
.32-20WCF
.38-40WCF
.44-40WCF

MARLIN 1893
.25-36 Marlin
.30-30 Win
.32-40WCF
.38-55WCF

MARLIN 1895
.38-56WCF
.40-65WCF
.40-70WCF
.40-82WCF
.45-70 Gov't
.45-90

So can you guys fill in the blanks for me so I can make my brother happy?

Joe

While there were other cartridges chambered, AFAIK, those are all the hyphenated designations.


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[Malamute]

Think 40-70(72?) may have been an 86 load also.

Forgot about the 38-70

[Pete44ru]

Think 40-70(72?) may have been an 86 load also.

Forgot about the 38-70

AFAIK, the .40-72WCF/.40-72 was introduced in the Winchester Model 1895.


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[Hawkeye2]

I believe that the '85 Hi Wall was made in every cartridge that was available till after the turn of the century.

Add this to your list: '85 in 40-70 Ballard. I have one with a #4 barrel and a single set trigger.

[Griff]

I have a request from my brother for a list of hyphenated cartridges of the past.

So I figured I'd ask here as my COTW is AWOL since the move.

How about we do it this way:

Winchester 1873:
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1876:
.40-60WCF
45-60
45-75
50-90


Winchester 1886:
.38-56WCF
.38-70WCF
.40-65WCF
.40-70WCF
.40-82WCF
45-70
45-90
50-110
.50-100-450



Winchester 1892:
32 W.C.F. ~ 32-20
38 W.C.F. ~ 38-40
44 W.C.F. ~ 44-40

Winchester 1894:
.25-35WCF
30 W.C. F. ~ 30-30
32-40
38-55



Winchester 1895
?

.30/40 Krag
.30-03
.30-06
.40-72WCF


Winchester single shots - M-1885
?

.32-20WCF
.38-40WCF
.44-40WCF
.30-30WCF
.30-40 Krag
.40-70
.40-90
.45-70
.45-90
.45-120
.50-110
+ many various black powder cartridges ( Sharps & Ballard, etc ).

As for the Marlins and others I really do not know enough to quote anything.

MARLIN 1881
.32-40WCF
.38-55 Ballard
.40-60WCF
.40-85 Marlin
.45-70GOV'T

MARLIN 1888/89/1894/94
.25-20WCF
.32-20WCF
.38-40WCF
.44-40WCF

MARLIN 1893
.25-36 Marlin
.30-30 Win
.32-40WCF
.38-55WCF

MARLIN 1895
.38-56WCF
.40-65WCF
.40-70WCF
.40-82WCF
.45-70 Gov't
.45-90

So can you guys fill in the blanks for me so I can make my brother happy?

Joe

While there were other cartridges chambered, AFAIK, those are all the hyphenated designations.


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And a few more, chambered in both Sharps 1874s & Winchester 1885s & Remington Rolling Blocks:
.40-70SBN
.40-90SBN
.44-77

[stubbicatt]

32-40 in 1894 and 1885 High Wall...

[cas]

.52-70
.56-56

[marlinman93]

The Marlin 1888 was never offered in .25-20 anything. The 1889 was offered in .25-20 Marlin (25 guns sold) and the early 1894 was also .25-20 Marlin, and eventually dropped for the .25-20 WCF.

[J Miller]

Malamute,

My Winchester book is in the same area as my COTW, AWOL. There's a lot of things I may never find again after that move.

As for the hyphenated cartridges all I can say is: WOW! I knew there was a bunch of them, but until now I'd never seen them all listed in the same place.

Thanks guys I do appreciate it. I'll send this to my brother and watch him send me more questions.

Joe

[Shasta]

I have a nice old octagon barreled 1895 Winchester chambered in .38-72 WCF. Nobody mentioned that caliber.

Shasta

[jnyork]

IIRC the book "Cartridges of the World" has a whole section on obsolete old cartridges like this. Be nice and buy him a copy for his birthday or whatever.

[Griff]

IIRC the book "Cartridges of the World" has a whole section on obsolete old cartridges like this. Be nice and buy him a copy for his birthday or whatever.

Or give him yours whenever you find it... you don't use it that often! Just kiddin' Joe!

[Ysabel Kid]

Don't forget Teddy's "big medicine" in the 1895!

Also, the Russian government purchased a bunch of 1895's in 7.62x54R...

Great list Joe!