Just... Wow. Any of you guys seen these bullets?

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:17 pm

http://www.competitor-pistol.com/jb%20home.html
http://www.competitor-pistol.com/jb%20bullets.html

Crater TM and Crater-2 TM series 45/70 heavy weight cast bullets.

45/70 loaded with the big-game stopper 550 Crater TM.

Wonder how they compare to the Hammerheads?

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:20 pm

But is it enough for squirrel?

You know how nasty critters have gotten over the years...

NonPCnraRN · Post by **NonPCnraRN** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:26 pm

Carry some of those in the California Condor range and see if the DFG have a sense of humor!

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:36 pm

Wow just what my shoulder needs

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AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:40 pm

Probably a good gun for feral cats...

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:40 pm

Hmmm - those will do!!!

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:43 pm

Ysabel Kid wrote:Hmmm - those will do!!!

Doesn't matter what it is either. Buffalo, Moose, Polar Bear, T-Rex...

runfiverun · Post by **runfiverun** » Fri May 30, 2008 12:14 am

do they make them for the 38-55?
or can i get a mold? that would tip some steel over...

95fan · Post by **95fan** » Fri May 30, 2008 12:29 am

NonPCnraRN wrote:Carry some of those in the California Condor range and see if the DFG have a sense of humor!

Ya, I reckon that there is big enough to take down a condor.

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:23 am

AJMD429 wrote:Probably a good gun for feral cats...

Of the Sabertooth variety no doubt

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Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Fri May 30, 2008 5:07 am

Jaguarundi wrote:
AJMD429 wrote:Probably a good gun for feral cats...
Of the Sabertooth variety no doubt !

Aahhhh, you beat me to it!

WCF3030 · Post by **WCF3030** » Fri May 30, 2008 6:25 am

How about this one, I thought that it would make a good go to round in a H&R 500 S&W, in case a elephant went bonkers the next time the circus came to town.

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Rimfire McNutjob · Post by **Rimfire McNutjob** » Fri May 30, 2008 9:54 am

Wow ... those are the freight train of bullets. Nice.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Fri May 30, 2008 10:54 am

wonder if they would work in my sharps

sore shoulder · Post by **sore shoulder** » Fri May 30, 2008 11:09 am

rjohns94 wrote:wonder if they would work in my sharps

The bullet with the long boreriding nose is nothing more than the old Lyman 560gr borerider. I get them from a caster up in Cody, Mt Baldy Bullets. The old Lyman manuals have load info. Since your Sharps will shoot those long nosed Postell bullets, I don't see why it wouldn't digest the Lyman.

preventec47 · Post by **preventec47** » Fri May 30, 2008 11:25 am

That is a 45/70 right? What was that talk about a pistol ?

Wouldnt a lot of guns have problems stabilizing such
a long bullet ? No doubt being shot at close range whether
it keyholed or not might not make much of an accuracy difference.
Hitting your prey sideways might result in some incredible damage
in it's own unique way.

sore shoulder · Post by **sore shoulder** » Fri May 30, 2008 1:25 pm

preventec47 wrote:That is a 45/70 right? What was that talk about a pistol ?

Wouldnt a lot of guns have problems stabilizing such
a long bullet ?

The original 45-70 bullet was a 500gr RN. It was good up to 2 miles.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Fri May 30, 2008 4:39 pm

preventec47 wrote:That is a 45/70 right? What was that talk about a pistol ?

Wouldnt a lot of guns have problems stabilizing such
a long bullet ? No doubt being shot at close range whether
it keyholed or not might not make much of an accuracy difference.
Hitting your prey sideways might result in some incredible damage
in it's own unique way.

Yes, the 700g bullet is in a S&W 500 mag case. Handguns have a fast twist rate to spin up the bullet, and that one should spin just fine in the longer barrels of the 500s.

I think you can get that bullet in a 459 dia., and I think the faster twist barrels will stabilize it. But, yeah, a lot of guns with slower twist barrels will have trouble stabilizing it...

Grizz

buckeyeshooter · Post by **buckeyeshooter** » Fri May 30, 2008 5:21 pm

Are the 700 grains available in .510 for use in my 50 alaskan lever gun????

preventec47 · Post by **preventec47** » Fri May 30, 2008 6:28 pm

[quote="Old Ironsights"]http://www.competitor-pistol.com/jb%20home.html
http://www.competitor-pistol.com/jb%20bullets.html

Crater TM and Crater-2 TM series 45/70 heavy weight cast bullets.
45/70 loaded with the big-game stopper 550 Crater TM.
[/quote]

Dont forget to look at the original links.
Here is a quote I dont fully understand......

"Using a superhard bullet casting alloy, the gas check â€œCrater TMâ€

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:04 pm

preventec47

It's a good question. I've been thinking that at the velocities I shoot heavies I don't really need the gas check.

I think it's needed more if the bullets are sized to the actual bore diameter, because they won't bump up. That's why one + thousandths over bore size is recommended for the hard cast bullets.

So, yeah, I think a plain base bullet, sized .460 for my guns, won't lead the bore. I think the gas checks may be a fad in some cases, like adjustable rear sights on a handgun...

;) Grizz

Just... Wow. Any of you guys seen these bullets?

Just... Wow. Any of you guys seen these bullets?

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