Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
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Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
I just bought a used 94 from my stepson. Nice little rifle. But I have never been all that big a fan of the .30-30. Are there any alternate or wildcat alternatives for this little lever gun?
FWIW I already have Marlin's in .45-70 and .444 so those choices are covered. Any and all ideas welcomed!
Mark
FWIW I already have Marlin's in .45-70 and .444 so those choices are covered. Any and all ideas welcomed!
Mark
Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
There are 94's in various calibers other than 30-30, but I'm assuming yours is in the 'standard' caliber.
The only alternate caliber I've ever considered is the 30-30 Ackley Improved, which gives a marginal improvement in ballistics with minimal fuss for a rifleman who's also a reloader.
Personally, I've not found the 30WCF to be seriously lacking to my purposes as it is, however.
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The only alternate caliber I've ever considered is the 30-30 Ackley Improved, which gives a marginal improvement in ballistics with minimal fuss for a rifleman who's also a reloader.
Personally, I've not found the 30WCF to be seriously lacking to my purposes as it is, however.
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Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
The .25-35, .32 Special, .38-55 and .410 shotshell in factory barrels/offerings, and the .35-30 wildcat.
I suppose if you really wanted to work on it, a .357, .44 Magnum or .45 Colt could also result.
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I suppose if you really wanted to work on it, a .357, .44 Magnum or .45 Colt could also result.
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How about a custom, 22" or 24" slightly heavy contour barrel in .25-35, with rifle forend and half magazine? The .25-35's I have shot have been VERY VERY accurate, and very pleasant to shoot. You could have a lot of fun with one year-round, not just during deer season...
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Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
The 30-30 Ackley Improved is a good upgrade to the 30-30. Essentially turns it into a "300 Savage light".
If you don't mine getting a new barrel, the classic "improved" chambering is the 7mm Waters which is a 30-30 case blown out and necked down to .284".
Personally, I'd like a 25-35 AI. That'd be the thing IMHO.
If you don't mine getting a new barrel, the classic "improved" chambering is the 7mm Waters which is a 30-30 case blown out and necked down to .284".
Personally, I'd like a 25-35 AI. That'd be the thing IMHO.
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Don't forget the 7-30 Waters
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If I couldnt live with a 30/30 I'd turn it in to a 25/35 that said a 30 WCF can drop deer, elk, moose and bears just fine a 170 to 190 grain bullet has alot of penetration. danny
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Since you have the 'biggies' (.444, etc.) covered, I'd consider .35 Remington, or .25-35, depending on your needs.
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Allways fancied a 7mm waters my self
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Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
A properly struck game animal will have a devil of a time telling the difference between the .30-30 and some wildcat or other. Nothing like good marksmanship and a well-placed shot.
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+1 7-30 Waters. Delightful round. Mid 80s AE 94 XTR 24" ("carbine" format: long mag tube, dual barrel bands)...one of nicest 94s I've ever handled or shot.
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I am with the waters guys, always wanted one.
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I've always thought that if I was lucky enough to shoot out my 356 Win. barrel, i would explore having it rechambered to the 375 JDJ or Paco's equivalent. One could push a 250 Gr. Cast Bullet at good velocity, with less pressure than it takes the 356 Win. to do it.
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Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
Try loading it with the 130 gr bullets and load them up warmish, and it may please you more. also load the 110s and try plinking loads with cast bullets. the 30/30 can be a lot of things if you play with it. also try out the 180, 185 and 190, even the 200 gr. cast. any one these will give you inexpensive fun and utility.Markbo wrote:I just bought a used 94 from my stepson. Nice little rifle. But I have never been all that big a fan of the .30-30. Are there any alternate or wildcat alternatives for this little lever gun?
FWIW I already have Marlin's in .45-70 and .444 so those choices are covered. Any and all ideas welcomed!
Mark
if you want to rebarrel look up the 25/35 tomcat [which may be the same as the 25/35 ackley improved]. that is a hot number.
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Markbo wrote:...I have never been all that big a fan of the .30-30.
Blasphemy!!!! Heretic!!!!
Seriously though...that little 7-30 Waters round always seemed interesting to me. Or what Nate mentioned..a 219 Zipper. That looks like a fun little round.
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Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
You've gotten good suggestions for rounds suitable to the rifle. But, I will make an observation, FWIW.
Most of the foks I've known who "never really cared for the .30-30" have never really given it a try and explored its capabilities. It is a lot more effective and versatile than popular writings and gun shop BS would lead you to believe. In fact, it is one of the greats of all time, and arguably the perfect match for a light leveraction carbine. You can always switch if it turns out not to be your cup of tea, but you might want to give it a chance to prove itself first.
Most of the foks I've known who "never really cared for the .30-30" have never really given it a try and explored its capabilities. It is a lot more effective and versatile than popular writings and gun shop BS would lead you to believe. In fact, it is one of the greats of all time, and arguably the perfect match for a light leveraction carbine. You can always switch if it turns out not to be your cup of tea, but you might want to give it a chance to prove itself first.
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WHAT???? WHYEVER FOR????
30WCF, better known as the .30-30 is the best invention outside the Winchester Mdl 94! Go figure that such two great ideas come as a package!
30WCF, better known as the .30-30 is the best invention outside the Winchester Mdl 94! Go figure that such two great ideas come as a package!
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Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
+1 Pisgah. Good post. I've shot--and loved--the .30-30 for 40+ years, and that's mostly with factory stuff.
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I CANNOT say enough good about the 25-35 Winchester. Accurate beyond all reason. Kills deer like they were hit with a bomb, even very heavy bodied deer. More than just a few even use it on elk, or at least used to though that is conversation for some other day!
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Re: Winchester 94 alternate/wildcat caliber choices?
if you consider the leverrevolution and buffaloe bores 190 grain, the 30wcf. can hold its own as a north american game getter, for those that want to shoot at 300 yards and those who use it as bear protection. although the old timers accomplished the same things with the 170grain corelocks.