OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
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OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
Yeah, I know - no walnut or blued steel, and no lever, but purely in terms of being able to move about one pound of lead relatively quickly (14 shots of 12 gauge), the Kel-Tec KSG does have some interesting features; having two selectable magazines, among other things...
It seems like only about one in fifty new firearms ideas makes it over the hump and stays around, but it's always fun to see new ones.
It seems like only about one in fifty new firearms ideas makes it over the hump and stays around, but it's always fun to see new ones.
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
I'm not a big Kel-Tec fan but I do like the way they tend to diverge from the conventional, even if the results are a little strange sometimes.
Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
It is a very interesting Shotgun, but the 800 dollar price tag I am informed it carries pretty much makes me lose interest.
Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
If it was half the price i would like to try one; I suspect that if the Dems ever get a new AWB passed, this one will be listed by name.
Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
I can hardly imagine a better companion for walking in the woods where the bear tracks in the snow look like snowshoes and the claw holes where they're climbing the deer trail you're on are about 4" long.
Standing on the river bank just north of a fishing bear always makes me feel a little undergunned. I think Kel-Tec has a great idea. Makes my mossy 500 seem clunky and impotent with six rounds in it. A lot of folks think an 8 round 1911 is worth way more than $800 bucks...
Besides, the style of home invasions around here is 3 to 5 thugs with shotguns... so this little piece would be bringing enough gun. What a great house cleaner.
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Standing on the river bank just north of a fishing bear always makes me feel a little undergunned. I think Kel-Tec has a great idea. Makes my mossy 500 seem clunky and impotent with six rounds in it. A lot of folks think an 8 round 1911 is worth way more than $800 bucks...
Besides, the style of home invasions around here is 3 to 5 thugs with shotguns... so this little piece would be bringing enough gun. What a great house cleaner.
practical is its own reward
Grizz
Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
Neat design but the shotgun does have an issue. The trigger doesn’t reset. If you pull the trigger, and then run the slide while still holding the trigger to the rear like you would on a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, the trigger will simply go dead. You have to rack the slide again to reset the trigger which of course ejects a good shell.
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
Can't get a stronger endorsement or recommendation than that...!damienph wrote:I suspect that if the Dems ever get a new AWB passed, this one will be listed by name.
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
In that form factor and price it needs to be an auto. A Benelli like inertia system, bull pup, high cap - now THAT would be something.
Sadly, I've got zero interest in this baby and I actually like Kel-Tec products.
Oly
Sadly, I've got zero interest in this baby and I actually like Kel-Tec products.
Oly
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Oly
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
That can be rectified. Extended mag, collapsible stock, etc. etc...Grizz wrote: Makes my mossy 500 seem clunky and impotent with six rounds in it.
Oly
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
Neat design but the shotgun does have an issue. The trigger doesn’t reset. If you pull the trigger, and then run the slide while still holding the trigger to the rear like you would on a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, the trigger will simply go dead.
Huh? I'm not doubting you, but that automatically removes it from *any* sort of life or death applications.
As stolen from Mr. Ayoob, Spaulding or somebody or another, "in stressful situations gross motor skills deteriorate and fine motor skills disappear."
I could see this 'feature' getting someone killed.
Huh? I'm not doubting you, but that automatically removes it from *any* sort of life or death applications.
As stolen from Mr. Ayoob, Spaulding or somebody or another, "in stressful situations gross motor skills deteriorate and fine motor skills disappear."
I could see this 'feature' getting someone killed.
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
I thought at this point is was not yet released or on the market.dsmith512 wrote:Neat design but the shotgun does have an issue. The trigger doesn’t reset. If you pull the trigger, and then run the slide while still holding the trigger to the rear like you would on a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, the trigger will simply go dead. You have to rack the slide again to reset the trigger which of course ejects a good shell.
Did you have access to one already?
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
The thing I like about it is that you can put Buck in one tube and slug in the other... and switch as necessary.
The trigger reset issue will be resolved I'm sure.
The trigger reset issue will be resolved I'm sure.
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Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
Like it or not it is unique. I think it's cool that there is always another design in this industry. Some we like, some we don't, but please keep them coming.
Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
+1olyinaz wrote:In that form factor and price it needs to be an auto. A Benelli like inertia system, bull pup, high cap - now THAT would be something.
Re: OT - new pump shotgun from Kel-Tec - ugly powerhouse?
This trigger reset issue was reported by those who handled the firearm at Shot Show 2011. I hope Kel-Tec fixes this issue. In my mind it is a sure show stopper.AJMD429 wrote:I thought at this point is was not yet released or on the market.dsmith512 wrote:Neat design but the shotgun does have an issue. The trigger doesn’t reset. If you pull the trigger, and then run the slide while still holding the trigger to the rear like you would on a Remington 870 or a Mossberg, the trigger will simply go dead. You have to rack the slide again to reset the trigger which of course ejects a good shell.
Did you have access to one already?