EJECTION
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EJECTION
Here is my question:
If you throw your lever forward harder/faster, does it eject further/stronger?
If so please state what gun you have and how much of a difference it makes.
Thanks
If you throw your lever forward harder/faster, does it eject further/stronger?
If so please state what gun you have and how much of a difference it makes.
Thanks
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Since I don't abuse mine by slamming the lever forward and back I can't say for sure. But if I work the lever normally they seem to eject just as far as if I work the lever gently.
It doesn't seem to matter as long as the lever stroke is positive and complete.
Joe
It doesn't seem to matter as long as the lever stroke is positive and complete.
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With the Rossi '92s I find that to be true, but with both my '94s and my '73 it doesn't seem to make any difference. The '73 usually pops 'em up on my hat brim, the '94s seem to drop 'em right around my right foot. Just a little behind me and to the right.
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I think that any time you increase the acceleration of the bolt you will increase the velocity of the case as it moves against the ejector. That may or may not throw the case farther from the gun. Frankly, I don't worry about it as long as the cases consistently come out of the gun.
Sincerely,
Hobie
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Hobie, I'd agree with you on side ejection or AE as the trajectory is AWAY from the gun to begin with. But... on a true top-eject 94, I think the trajectory is mostly up, with some lateral movement, so any increase in bolt movement is translated into more elevation of the empty, not any significant increase in distance away from the shooter. Anyway... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
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I've noticed with my rifles that the distance the case is ejected is not effected so much as the DIRECTION of the case is effected.
For instance, the other day, when I was chronographing some handloads, I was working the lever of my .444S Marlin slowly between rounds and the cases were ejecting straight out about 4-feet. However, after doing my chrono work, I shot the rifle off-hand at some distant clay targets and was working the lever smartly and the cases were ejecting about 5-feet at about a 45º angle behind me. I've also noticed this when firing my top-eject 94s. If I work the lever more-or-less gently, the cases go straight up with a smidgen of ejection to the right. However, if Iwork the lever smartly, the cases eject straight up with some rearward trajectory and fall straight down on my head or right shoulder.
However, like Joe, I do not work my levers with undue force. A firm flick of the lever is all that is needed for proper function of the rifle.
For instance, the other day, when I was chronographing some handloads, I was working the lever of my .444S Marlin slowly between rounds and the cases were ejecting straight out about 4-feet. However, after doing my chrono work, I shot the rifle off-hand at some distant clay targets and was working the lever smartly and the cases were ejecting about 5-feet at about a 45º angle behind me. I've also noticed this when firing my top-eject 94s. If I work the lever more-or-less gently, the cases go straight up with a smidgen of ejection to the right. However, if Iwork the lever smartly, the cases eject straight up with some rearward trajectory and fall straight down on my head or right shoulder.
However, like Joe, I do not work my levers with undue force. A firm flick of the lever is all that is needed for proper function of the rifle.
Griff, you must be driving right now as I saidGriff wrote:Hobie, I'd agree with you on side ejection or AE as the trajectory is AWAY from the gun to begin with. But... on a true top-eject 94, I think the trajectory is mostly up, with some lateral movement, so any increase in bolt movement is translated into more elevation of the empty, not any significant increase in distance away from the shooter. Anyway... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
FWIW, this applies to most every type of firearm.That may or may not throw the case farther from the gun.
Sincerely,
Hobie
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Hobie
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Here's what I found:
The 1886 (45-70) and Marlin 39A will pile brass one on top of the other no matter how fast or hard I flick the lever forward.
The 94AE (45 Colt) has no rhyme or reason to the pattern of ejection in spite of flicking the lever harder, smoother, slower, whatever.
The Sav 99 (308) definitely throws them further back and further to the right the faster I flick the lever forward. If I simply open the lever all the way it dribbles the brass at my feet.
They all eject every time - so no concern there. I was more curious than concerned. I find this pretty interesting and entertaining though.
The 1886 (45-70) and Marlin 39A will pile brass one on top of the other no matter how fast or hard I flick the lever forward.
The 94AE (45 Colt) has no rhyme or reason to the pattern of ejection in spite of flicking the lever harder, smoother, slower, whatever.
The Sav 99 (308) definitely throws them further back and further to the right the faster I flick the lever forward. If I simply open the lever all the way it dribbles the brass at my feet.
They all eject every time - so no concern there. I was more curious than concerned. I find this pretty interesting and entertaining though.
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Nope, musta been dozing on the couch! It'd be hard to argue with that statement, huh?Hobie wrote:Griff, you must be driving right now as I saidGriff wrote:Hobie, I'd agree with you on side ejection or AE as the trajectory is AWAY from the gun to begin with. But... on a true top-eject 94, I think the trajectory is mostly up, with some lateral movement, so any increase in bolt movement is translated into more elevation of the empty, not any significant increase in distance away from the shooter. Anyway... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!FWIW, this applies to most every type of firearm.That may or may not throw the case farther from the gun.
Griff,
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AND... I'm over it!!
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There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
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I find it different with different guns from different era's. For the most part, as long as you don't eeeeaaaaasssssseee the lever real slow, there is not a lot of difference. Winchesters wing 'em further than Marlins and Colt Lightnings drop 'em right on top of your head or sometimes right down your back in between your shirt and skin. ------------Sixgun