Hi all,
I got done shooting some reloads in my 30-30 the other day. I was inspecting brass and was surprised to run across a case that was stamped 32 Winchester Special. I DID shoot this case along with the others. I had no problems with it. Could this be mis-stamped? Anyone know what the heck a 32 Win Special is and why it is stamped on what appears to be a 30-30 case? I am baffled!
See the culprit below:
The culprit standing next to a Remington Core-Lok factory load...cases look the same....
Thanks!
32 Winchester Special, Mis-stamped?
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Re: 32 Winchester Special, Mis-stamped?
It is the same case - on is necked to .30 cal and one to 32 cal. You can neck down 32 WS to 30 WCF and you can neck up 30 WCF to 32 WS. I use both cases to form 35-30 cases too.
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Re: 32 Winchester Special, Mis-stamped?
Were those dimples on that primer enough to detonate ?
A win 32spl is just that, a win 32spl. Another caliber in the long line of Winchester fame. As for which came first 30-30 or 32 spl- IDK. But I bet someone does.
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A win 32spl is just that, a win 32spl. Another caliber in the long line of Winchester fame. As for which came first 30-30 or 32 spl- IDK. But I bet someone does.
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Re: 32 Winchester Special, Mis-stamped?
What 86er said + 1 .
The .30-30 came first. The .32 Special was developed to replace the discontinued BP.32-40 I have read.
I was not around in those days so reading about it is about the best I can do.
The .30-30 came first. The .32 Special was developed to replace the discontinued BP.32-40 I have read.
I was not around in those days so reading about it is about the best I can do.
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Re: 32 Winchester Special, Mis-stamped?
Not to be confused with .32-20 Winchester, .32-40 Winchester, or .32 Winchester Self-Loading.
The .32 Winchester Special (or .32 WS) is a rimmed cartridge created in October 1901 for use in the Winchester Model 94 lever-action rifle.[2] It is similar in name but unrelated to the .32-20 Winchester cartridge (which is also known as .32 WCF).
History[edit]
This cartridge is based on the .30-30 Winchester cartridge of 1895, but differs from the .30-30 in bullet diameter. More significantly, Winchester decreased the rate of rifling twist in their Model 94 rifle, from 1:12 when chambered for the .30-30 to 1:16 when chambered for the .32 Winchester Special. Winchester used the slower twist to reduce fouling retention when creating a new cartridge for sportsmen who wanted to reload their own ammunition using black powder and cast bullets.[3] It was also marketed as something more powerful than the .30-30 and yet had less recoil than the .30 Army.[2][4] This new cartridge enjoyed only moderate success, and remained hampered by the small selection of available bullets in the .321 diameter.[2] There is a wide selection of bullet types and weights for the .30-30, while the only commonly-available bullets in .321 diameter are 170 grain and 165 grain. Also, due to the slow twist of the barrel, accuracy suffered when the barrel exhibited wear.
Performance[edit]
Ballistics are similar to the .30-30 cartridge and its .308 caliber (7.62mm) bullet, but the larger diameter .321 (8.15 mm) bullet of the .32 WS will create a larger wound. However, given the same weight of bullet in both calibers, the .30 caliber would have a greater sectional density, and correspondingly greater penetration.[5] According to Winchester's original claims, the .32 WS has about 5-10% more energy than the .30-30 at point-blank ranges, and less at longer ranges due to increased drag due to the .321's greater diameter and reduced sectional density.[6]
See also[edit]
The .32 Winchester Special (or .32 WS) is a rimmed cartridge created in October 1901 for use in the Winchester Model 94 lever-action rifle.[2] It is similar in name but unrelated to the .32-20 Winchester cartridge (which is also known as .32 WCF).
History[edit]
This cartridge is based on the .30-30 Winchester cartridge of 1895, but differs from the .30-30 in bullet diameter. More significantly, Winchester decreased the rate of rifling twist in their Model 94 rifle, from 1:12 when chambered for the .30-30 to 1:16 when chambered for the .32 Winchester Special. Winchester used the slower twist to reduce fouling retention when creating a new cartridge for sportsmen who wanted to reload their own ammunition using black powder and cast bullets.[3] It was also marketed as something more powerful than the .30-30 and yet had less recoil than the .30 Army.[2][4] This new cartridge enjoyed only moderate success, and remained hampered by the small selection of available bullets in the .321 diameter.[2] There is a wide selection of bullet types and weights for the .30-30, while the only commonly-available bullets in .321 diameter are 170 grain and 165 grain. Also, due to the slow twist of the barrel, accuracy suffered when the barrel exhibited wear.
Performance[edit]
Ballistics are similar to the .30-30 cartridge and its .308 caliber (7.62mm) bullet, but the larger diameter .321 (8.15 mm) bullet of the .32 WS will create a larger wound. However, given the same weight of bullet in both calibers, the .30 caliber would have a greater sectional density, and correspondingly greater penetration.[5] According to Winchester's original claims, the .32 WS has about 5-10% more energy than the .30-30 at point-blank ranges, and less at longer ranges due to increased drag due to the .321's greater diameter and reduced sectional density.[6]
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Re: 32 Winchester Special, Mis-stamped?
Somewhere along the line that fired 32 Special case got mixed in with fired 30/30 cases. Full-length resized in process of reloading and became just another 30/30 case, albeit with the 32 Special headstamp. Nothing hazardous going on -- just gives a fellow a bit of a surprise if you look at the headstamps.
If it had still been a 32 Special with its .321 diameter bullet it wouldn't have chambered.
If it had still been a 32 Special with its .321 diameter bullet it wouldn't have chambered.
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Re: 32 Winchester Special, Mis-stamped?
Ah, now it all makes sense. Thanks!
earlmck wrote:Somewhere along the line that fired 32 Special case got mixed in with fired 30/30 cases. Full-length resized in process of reloading and became just another 30/30 case, albeit with the 32 Special headstamp. Nothing hazardous going on -- just gives a fellow a bit of a surprise if you look at the headstamps.
If it had still been a 32 Special with its .321 diameter bullet it wouldn't have chambered.