OT Why FT/LBS are a waste of time.....
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OT Why FT/LBS are a waste of time.....
This morning drinking a brew before I set of for work and sitting in bed, outside the pheasants suddenly started cocking up. Hmm I thought, I wonder what they have seen so I got out of bed to see just over the hedge a fox in the field at about 25yds so I went and grabbed my air rifle and loaded up. By the time I had opened the window the fox, a vixen had moved behind a tree and I had to wait all the time seeing the distance growing more and more. Finally at about 50yds she gave me a shot in the misty freezing fog. I aimed for the ribs after a little squeak to get her to stand still for a sec. A reasuring hollow thump sound come back and of she went. After 20yds she slowed to a walk with her head down and slowly disapeared into the fog. ( She made a good one hundred yards)
Soon after the dog fox appeared and in the murk kept visiting what looked like a shadow in the murky fog - I knew I had killed her.
The dog and me went to retrieve her,
[img][img]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/ ... gunfox.jpg[/img]
The air gun is making around 12ft/lbs ans she got alot less than that.
Remember all the posts of folk on here using 25/20 to kill deer and 30/20s.
Ft/LBS mean nothing to me [/img]
Nath.
Soon after the dog fox appeared and in the murk kept visiting what looked like a shadow in the murky fog - I knew I had killed her.
The dog and me went to retrieve her,
[img][img]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/ ... gunfox.jpg[/img]
The air gun is making around 12ft/lbs ans she got alot less than that.
Remember all the posts of folk on here using 25/20 to kill deer and 30/20s.
Ft/LBS mean nothing to me [/img]
Nath.
Psalm ch8.
Because I wish I could!
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Yep,only three things count.... bullet placement, bullet placement, and bullet placement. Just ask WDM Bell. Anybody here want to try and tackle an elephant with a 7mm Mauser? He did all the time.
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howard hill
My dad knew Howard Hill, famous archer from back in the late forties. He killed a huge elephant with a regular bow, not one of these compound bows we see today. So that air gun is powerul too, good shot my friend, you proved a point, that a good aim is important.
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Re: howard hill
Bruce,brucew44guns wrote:My dad knew Howard Hill, famous archer from back in the late forties. He killed a huge elephant with a regular bow, not one of these compound bows we see today. So that air gun is powerul too, good shot my friend, you proved a point, that a good aim is important.
Mr. Hill (and I must emphasize MISTER) shot a 100 lb pull at his draw weight and used heavy arrows. That in no way diminishes his feat but I didn't want anyone to think he'd used a 55 lb pull bow with typical weight arrows. I have NEVER been conditioned well enough to draw 100 lbs but have shot a 70lb recurve. Just shooting the bow was an accomplishment if you ask me and that was standard for him. IOW, he didn't just use it on the elephant.
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regular bow
Hobie is right, the bow was a tremendous weapon for sure. When I said a "regular Bow" I didn't mean a Wal-Mart Chinese kids toy, but rather a bow of the old fashioned look and design or style, wasn't sure what they called them. All I knew for sure was the fact it was not a typical bow of today with pulleys and leverage that we see bow hunters use. If anyone would take time to find it on E-Bay or elsewhere, Howard Hill made a movie that you can still buy new fairly cheap, called "TIMBO". It is an excursion he made to Africa, killing many of the big boys over there. Quite intersteing, with many feet of film showing him aiming at, and shooting and killing game with that big killer bow he had. I have the film, it was a good buy for me to get it. The Model 71 I have was purchased originally by Howard Hills son-in-law, he had planned to kill an Alaskan bear with it, and Howard was going to get one with an arrow. They never went on the trip together however.
To hell with them fellas, buzzards gotta eat same as the worms.
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just a good thing it didn't CHARGE YOU. it probably wasn't what you considered a TROPHY OF A LIFE TIME. had it been you would have never survided the charge, or you would have wasted your hard earned money , going home empty handed. congradualations on your fine shooting. next time use at least a 416 rem mag. with premium bullets .ofcourse. if not, at least file the front site off of that arm!!!!.
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Right on Nath, Bell did use a 6.5 Mauser early in his career but switched to the 7mm IIRC. I don't remember the reason. Maybe he thought it was too light. LOL!
I read a lot about him in one of Capstick's books.
I read a lot about him in one of Capstick's books.
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Great shot Nath .I use a Savage Model 93R17-FVSS bolt action in 17HMR for coyotes,gray and red foxes.I have nailed them out to 100+ yards(longest was 153).The key is SHOT PLACEMENT.Once again I salute your luck and skill.Happy Hunting.
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Excellent shot there Nate. At 50 yard, how much did you have to hold over the top of the fox? I would guess that an air gun, at that distance, has a rainbow trajectory like a slow 45-70. As it is now 5:35 a.m. here in Georgia, I think I'll go get a brew! LOL, words sure change meanings as you cross the pond.
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Well done Nath. It's amazing what a .177 pellet can do. I remember as a kid I had a Webley Senior air pistol with both a .177 and a spare .22 barrel. I soon found out which was the most affective on Starlings. Penetration was more important than clout. I would choose a .177 over a .22 anytime with a low powered air gun.
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Thanks for the kind words. I would of prefered to use one of my levers but my nieghbors would not enjoy it as much as me, I,m allready getting scouls from next door and another nieghbor is not talking since there cat went missing. Well actually it staggered in apparently peppered with shot and died, somehow they think I,m involved.
I had some luck with this fox, I was able to squeeze one in to it's wind box. At the distance I shot it I gave it 2" and it worked out just right.
I would love to get a chance with my bow, boy that would be something.
Yes, a brew as in I brewed a cup of tea (mug actually) and one for the current Mrs Nath as I do every morning and no not a beer
Nath.
I had some luck with this fox, I was able to squeeze one in to it's wind box. At the distance I shot it I gave it 2" and it worked out just right.
I would love to get a chance with my bow, boy that would be something.
Yes, a brew as in I brewed a cup of tea (mug actually) and one for the current Mrs Nath as I do every morning and no not a beer
Nath.
Psalm ch8.
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I have been reading up on airguns, and was reading someone's blog. He was telling about an outing where he and his friend went after rabbits. They saw a deer. His friend decided to annoy the deer by shooting it with his airgun.
He killed it instead.
He killed it instead.
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