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Old Shatterhand

On tuesday I paid the deposit for a Winchester Mod 71 standard rifle, 1947 vintage. The last evenings I have browsed this forum for information about good loads for it to use on moose. There ws a lot of good reading about the cartridge! Most forists seem to prefer heavy bullets as the Barnes Origina...

Old Shatterhand

Plans can change swiftly: I ran into a Winchester mod 71, and bought it for a decent price.

Pete

Old Shatterhand

When I had a .375W, I loaded it with Barnes 255 grs FN and 34 grains of Norma 200. The velocity was about 625 meters/second, which should be about 2000 fps.

Pete

Old Shatterhand

And what would your opinions be, if your compared the 1886 with the Winchester mod 95?

Pete

Old Shatterhand

.308W is a great cartridge. When the Win 88 and I do our best at the bench, we pattern five 165 grs Hornady IB in a 1" circle, sometimes tighter. Low recoil, great accuracy, simple to load och efficient enough for most game.

Pete

Old Shatterhand

Thanks for your answers! Now I have some new views for my planning.

And thanks for the tube: nice shooting!

Regards,

Pete

Old Shatterhand

A long time I have been considering to extend my arsenal with a Winchester mod 1895 in .405 WCF. However, having read some texts about it, there are some comments on strong and unplesant recoil, to some part due to the bent stock design. What are your opinions ánd experiences? Perhaps I should add, ...

Old Shatterhand

Nice, clear pics! Text and stamps: Krupps Flusstahl - German high quality barrel steel from the Krupp Works in Essen. U with crown and eagle - Untersucht, i.e. controlled. S with crown - Schwarzpulverbeschuss, i.e. proofed with black powder. Nitro - Nitrobeschuss, i.e. proof with smokeless powder. W...

Old Shatterhand

Nice German pre-war shotgun from a high class maker! If you take a close look at the action, there is a screw behind the fences, which indicates that the gun have top-hinged sears, which should give a crispier pull. This improvement was invented by the Suhl gunsmiths, and is still used on the German...

Old Shatterhand

That sound like the "Winter vomit disease" which comes mostly every winter here in Scandinavia. It is indeed not fun, but luckily the infection only lasts a few days. My wife had it in the weekend, but today she is already nearly recovered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus Hopely you...

Old Shatterhand

Altered. Should be smooth and smooth. Joe Thanks - you must be right. I have a foto now. The stock seems to of high class wood but checkering and form indicate that the stock comes from a butchered shotgun. It is a pity. Otherwise the gun is fine with all blueing left and the fore end without dings...

Old Shatterhand

This evening I talked to a man in telefone about a mod 94 from the fifties. The gun has a checkered grip but smooth forend. Is this original, or is the gun altered?

Old Sh.

Edit: added pic in my last posting.

Old Shatterhand

You won't obviously spare a single penny, as you will realise how fun and interesting reloading in itself is. The money you spare on the cost of the single cartridge will blow away with the gunsmoke at the range, when you start testing several loads. :) More seriously: Ten years ago I started reload...

Old Shatterhand

S&B hunting cartridges are fine, and have good quality. But I would not suggest anyone to use S&B cheap training ammo. Here in Sweden S&B has got a bad reputation at the shooting ranges after stuck bolts, blown cases and one or two gun blow-ups. Try to find Norma, Lapua or RWS loads for ...

Old Shatterhand

What about the wood? It does look like modern Winchester wood with uretan varnish.

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

"Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong."

That's true, but I am glad that I only very seldom make that experience!

Old Sh.

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My father's wife had a chirurgic treatment against this two years ago. She was OK again two months after the operation. Suppousedly I will be affected by it myself: my mother had her first signs when she was 65 years old, her father had it and so had her grandfather too. It is not uncommon here in S...

Old Shatterhand

The Ruger #1 is a great beautiful rifle. I wouldn't be disappointed with one in .45-70 or .405WCF in my cabinet. The only thing I don't fully appreciate is the rib. How is it fastened - with screws or with solder? If screwed, it would be possible to take it away and put a nice rear sight on the barr...

Old Shatterhand

Thanks for the link - I really enjoyed seeing the film.

Here is a local engine museum 1½ hour with the car away: http://www.rubens.se/index_uk.html

Old Sh.

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SteveR wrote:Old Shatterhand,

Sorry about the hyjack of the thread OP.

Do you collect any of the Finnish Mosin Nagants?

Thanks,
Steve

No - I haven't not even handled or seen one. But there are alot of them at our neighbours in Finland.

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

What is the best sight between Soderin and Elit? I can have one in like new condition with Elit sights for $750 or another with Soderin sights in very good condition with Soderin sights for $690. Both price includes all taxes and shipping. Also, where I can find front sight inserts for Elit? They a...

Old Shatterhand

Doesn't the paper wear the bore faster than even the jacketed bullets? Duckin' and runnin'... For years I have heard the old saw about paper dulling a knife. Try this: sharpen your knife and cut a couple hundred pieces of paper. Now resharpen the same knife and see how many jacketed bullets you can...

Old Shatterhand

We take roe deer and lynx here in Sweden with #3, 2 or 1 standard shot loads, and if distance is not further than 30 yards, they drop in their tracks when hit with any shotgun bigger than 20 ga. Supposedly that should work fine with your coyotes too.

Old Sh.

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There is no restrictions on how many shotguns a person can have entered on their shotgun licence. A shotgun is defined as over 44" in length with a barrel/s no less than 24" and capable of no more than three shots. Any shotgun over three shots has to be entered on a Firearm certificate (a...

Old Shatterhand

This reciever sight is mounted on an old Marlin 1893. Is it an original sight or a later addition? The gun is on the german auction site Egun.de and the asked orice is €3200, slightly more in $. http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3069123 http://www.egun.de/market/uploaded/3069123_2_4cf58fde1fd36....

Old Shatterhand

If I remind me correctly, the polished steel is treated with phosphoric acid, which gives the finish a grey look and also prevents rust.

Old Sh.

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Three years ago I couldn't find my swiss pocket knife. But last spring, I found it in the rubber gaiter for the opening of the washing machine. It must have laid in a pocket and got into the gaiter. It took me two years to find it,

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

Be careful when buying a CG63. Many of them have been range rifles, and have been rebarreled twice, thrice or more. Chamber length was adjusted by turning the barrel harder into the reciever. If the gun seems to have been much used, look for another, as there have been accidents with blow up action....

Old Shatterhand

Nice rifle! Once I had one, but I sold it to a young man who wanted a lever for moose and brown bear. I found it a bit to short in the stock, and with a laced butt-pad, the comb was too low for good sightening. Otherwise a really fun gun to shoot, and despite the low weight recoil was quite manageab...

Old Shatterhand

Just switched off the TV set, after having seen Capra's It's a Wonderful Life with James Stewart. It is a great film, and a memento for all those pessimists, who think that their role in the play of life is without importance or those who don't believe in guardian angels. My wife just love this film...

Old Shatterhand

Admirably beautiful guns!

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

These barrels are really beautiful - do you perhaps have some pictures of the rest of the gun to show?

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

All good - but I have always thought that the beelsebug was a part of the Windows Vista!

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

Thanks for all your contributions to the thread - I have had a great time reading!

What loads do you use, and what velocities do you get?

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

Yesterday I spoke in the telephone with a guy, who had a mod 1892 in .38-40WCF. After the call, I googled and binged the cartridge but found not much worth reading about it. Would you like to tell me some words about it?

Regards,

Pete

Old Shatterhand

Nice, good-looking rifle.

How does it shoot?

Pete

Old Shatterhand

Now I have seen the rifle. Straight grip stock with shotgun steel plate, uncheckered, half length magazine, round barrel, circa 24-26" long, front sight dovetailed into the barrel, rear sight with slide, swivel rings, nice blued reciever and barrel, barrel marked .45-90 without proof stamp, tan...

Old Shatterhand

Thanks for your replies! The facts about the barrel twist are not quite encouraging. I do not have any objections against slow bullets, but I would prefer to shoot 350 or 400 grs, as I 'd like to use the gun for moose. @ Mike: what bullet weights does your gun shoot well? And, BTW, it looks like a t...

Old Shatterhand

Were any mod 1886 in .45-90 WCF equipped with nickle steel barrels? I am trying to negiotiate a 1903 vintage rifle into my cabinet, and am considering what to feed it with. Having browsed the threads here at Leverguns, I easily realise, that loading this cartridge in this rifle needs some sense, som...

Old Shatterhand

Both cartridges will work, but 250 grs are better than 200 in the .348W. And both cartridges are tough enough.

Each year more than 100,000 moses are killed here, most of which are bagged with a 6,5x55 156 grs or a .30-06 180 grs. Shot placement is king.

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

Last winter I shot a big moose cow with my 8x57IR drilling. It is the rimmed older version of 8 mm Mauser - it shoots .318" bullets instead of .323", but bullet weight and velocity are the same. The bullet hit in the rib cage just behind the leg, went through the heart and was later recove...

Old Shatterhand

A Brno 502 looks like this - it a tough and sturdy gun, but a little heavy: http://www.i-bazar.cz/pictures/pics/kulobrok-brno-502-1-3832988.jpg There are rail mounts available - what width has the dovetail on the gun? Here is an axample for 14 mm: http://www.jgstrade.com/images/sklady/CZ_584_C_M.jpg...

Old Shatterhand

Nice fiddle-back wood in the stock.

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

The are two scoped rifles in my cabinet, but I don't like to use them, as I prefer irons. The scope on my m/88 sits in a pivot mount, which means that I can switch to irons in a heartbeat; the scope on the .22 Hornet is detachable, so I usually carry it in the pocket. Shooting with the scope is like...

Old Shatterhand

For my mod 88 .308W I resize partially - i.e. I use the full sizing die, but set it so only so deep that not more than the neck will be sized. Fully sized cases will not eject, but must be picked out with a screwdriver, and the caps are protroding a little from the head. I suspect that the die is a...

Old Shatterhand

For my mod 88 .308W I resize partially - i.e. I use the full sizing die, but set it so only so deep that not more than the neck will be sized. Fully sized cases will not eject, but must be picked out with a screwdriver, and the caps are protroding a little from the head. I suspect that the die is a ...

Old Shatterhand

Castor oil from the farmacy and RCBS pad make a good combination. Having used Lee toothpaste and RCBS lube, I was recommended castor oil by the shop master of the gun factory Varberger. It makes the work easier, and my Lee Challenger press could handle .30-06 cases without flexing.

Old Sh.

Old Shatterhand

Have gunsmith to make a chamber casting and to slug the bore. If it is a .32-40, just mark the barrel correctly and use that cartridge. If it is just a bad chamber, the smith can cut the base of the barrel ½", cut a new thread and then rechamber it correctly.

O.Sh.

Old Shatterhand

A beautiful rifle! Thanks for the pictures.

O.Sh.

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OldWin wrote:Hey guy's, haven't been here in forever. I actually have one of these in 45-70. It's nice and tight but I've never fired it.

What load level does that fine gun take?

O.Sh.

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